25/50 bluff

[JaBlue]

25/50 Villain is tight and seems to be thinking. Not a regular and doesn't know me and we haven't tangled.

7 or 8 handed.

He has 7000ish I cover. Folded to him in MP he raises to 200 I call with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the button. Blinds fold.

$475 flop 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]k[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
he bets 400 I raise to 1100 he calls

$2675 turn 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
he checks, I think and check

$2675 river Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
He bets 1700 and I push fastish, making it $4000 to go back to him.

[greg nice]

i dont think he will fold KQ, while you are repping basically 44/55. i prefer a follow through on turn

i also dont think one pair bets that river

[TheWorstPlayer]

I think he has precisely KQ and folds it. nh.

[Eagles]

I think the only hand he has here that he folds are AK and maybe KQ and I think that makes up a very small part of his range.

[El Diablo]

Eagles,

I don't really see anyone folding KQ here. Or AK. I mean, nobody's folding Aces here, so I can't see them folding AK very often either, really.

I think the hand you are folding out is something like KT squeezing out a thin value bet, but I don't think that's what you're up against enough to make this good.

[greg nice]

eld, aces will call because he could be the one shoving KQ and they got aces and fours.

AK folds but i dont think AK ever vbs here

[Eagles]

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Eagles,

I don't really see anyone folding KQ here. Or AK. I mean, nobody's folding Aces here, so I can't see them folding AK very often either, really.

I think the hand you are folding out is something like KT squeezing out a thin value bet, but I don't think that's what you're up against enough to make this good.

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I think you are right. If I was jablue I would probably shove KQ on the river because I expect worse hands to call.

[JaBlue]

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Eagles,

I don't really see anyone folding KQ here. Or AK. I mean, nobody's folding Aces here, so I can't see them folding AK very often either, really.

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I think AA is a call here for villain while AK is not because KQ should be a big part of my range. AA>KQ>AK. I haven't done anything loose, crazy or stupid at this table and I have never played with this guy yet. Given my read, I have a hard time seeing how he could look me up with anything less than KQ and even that is tough, I think. My read could very well be off but that's all I got - he's mostly an unknown, but seems tight/solid.

Also I didn't follow through on the turn because a) I thought he had some AK/KQ type hand and was planning to call me down and people never give it up on the turn here b) I thought I could still represent 45/44/55 on the river if I checked the turn and stacks were good size for a bluff on riv.

edit: Eagles,
If I had KQ this hand I'm not so sure river is a shove after he bets into me. He could easily have AA and its a really tough call for him to make with anything less than KQ imo.

[El Diablo]

Ja,

I also much prefer a follow-through on the turn.

[TxRedMan]

Spew.