Probably a Disappointment

[Flip-Flop]

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this seems like an extremely premature thread..?

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It has a purpose, you just don`t see it.

[jfish]

yea i figured there could be a purpose, but knowing how incompetent AP is i doubt it.

[canis582]

send Hans Blix.

[Grasshopp3r]

Send Jesse Jackson.

Seriously, Absolute should be shunned.

[pokergrader]

Thank you.

A "famous" person that is willing to put their name on the investigation is much much better than what we have now. I don't agree with it, but that is the way the world works.

[Raxxmataxx]

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They are an independant third party. They can report back what they were shown and what they were denied access to.

[/ QUOTE ]I can see how you can claim 2+2 is trustworthy, but as they've done quite a bit of business with AP "independent" just isn't true. Especially as clear evidence of cheating would be pretty bad for 2+2 indirectly.

The incentives there are for 2+2 clearly biases them to prefer this thing being fairly small. You may argue that they're above being influenced by that, but clearly there interests isn't served well by blowing the lid of a gigantic cheating scandal from someone they have done a lot of business with.

Someone truly independent wouldn't be depending on the poker industry for their income. Unfortunately that excludes most people willing to bother, so we should probably just look at someone who is known for having impeccable character. Barry G anyone?

[Victor]

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this seems like an extremely premature thread..?

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2p2/mason has recieved some criticism for not acting on this matter. the most conspicuous poster to condemn was el diablo but plenty more have been vocal.

very good move for 2p2 to attempt an active roll and to notify us

[Mason Malmuth]

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I can see how you can claim 2+2 is trustworthy, but as they've done quite a bit of business with AP "independent" just isn't true.

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As far as I know we haven't done any business with AP for at least two years.

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Especially as clear evidence of cheating would be pretty bad for 2+2 indirectly.


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The report would come from a third party and we would have no influence as to what it would contain.

MM

[Phil153]

Mason,

I'm just a random poker player but I want to say a huge thanks for undertaking this. You didn't have to get involved, but there really wasn't anyone else with the experience and credibility to do it, so thank you.

It will be very interesting indeed if Absolute denies this request, given that they offered access and a fee to a 25yo with little experience of the shady side of gambling.

[Nielsio]

Private arbitration ftw.