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Old 07-29-2006, 12:18 AM
VickreyAuction VickreyAuction is offline
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Default ATo in SB UI vs unknown.

This was early in the session, so I had no reads. I'm wondering about PF, turn and river.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (6.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero...
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Old 07-29-2006, 12:25 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: ATo in SB UI vs unknown.

i always call/lose at the table. i mean, are you really going to bust a fold now that the pot is about 10 bets? i had a guy do this with AA against me the other day. that pissed me off.
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Old 07-29-2006, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: ATo in SB UI vs unknown.

how can second pair be good? i would call sometimes for metagame/sanity, but i think fold is correct.
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Old 07-29-2006, 12:52 AM
crablegs33 crablegs33 is offline
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Default Re: ATo in SB UI vs unknown.

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how can second pair be good? i would call sometimes for metagame/sanity, but i think fold is correct.

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i'm with you
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Old 07-29-2006, 12:54 AM
VickreyAuction VickreyAuction is offline
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Default Re: ATo in SB UI vs unknown.

Turn bet is good?
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:21 AM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: ATo in SB UI vs unknown.

Agaisnt a HJ raise, I would fold preflop with no reads. I play postflop the same, on the river, once you bet and the villain raises youre in a tough spot with no read. Since bluff/raises on the river are still relatively rare, I would fold here with no read.
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Old 07-29-2006, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: ATo in SB UI vs unknown.

I echo Ilovepoker's sentiments on the preflop action. The river looks like a fold even though it's an odd card to be raised on.
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Old 07-29-2006, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: ATo in SB UI vs unknown.

Fold preflop? Your mad.
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:01 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Fold preflop? Your mad.

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This is one of those spots where it just comes down to whether you like money or not. If you dont like money then this is a must raise.
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: ATo in SB UI vs unknown.

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks a fold pf is not bad. We're OOP and we have no reads on villain. We're potentially dominated all sorts of ways. I'd like playing ATo on the button against a limper or two, but not OOP to a raise.
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