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Old 11-19-2007, 01:37 PM
KeanuReaver KeanuReaver is offline
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Default Re: Stack-a-donk in 3b pot?

hum yeah on second thought i think he does look you up here relatively often with 99 or TT, and you do get to charge a steep price to spade draws so c/r is > c/c
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: Stack-a-donk in 3b pot?

Your thoughts on these counter-thoughts:

- If he has a PP under Q, he will frequently fold to the stack-a-donk.

- If he has AK[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], he will call.

- In order for your stack-a-donk to be +EV here, you are relying on him having exactly Ax[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] very frequently.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Stack-a-donk in 3b pot?

Never really wrong against a regular.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:44 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Your thoughts on these counter-thoughts:

- If he has a PP under Q, he will frequently fold to the stack-a-donk.

- If he has AK[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], he will call.

- In order for your stack-a-donk to be +EV here, you are relying on him having exactly Ax[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] very frequently.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree he's usually going to fold pairs worse than Jacks to my c/r. But, am I getting more money out of those hands anyway? Is he going to call if I open push river? Is he going to bet his 99 if I check river? idk.

Once I forgo leading turn, the c/r is really for the purpose of charging his spade draws of which there's alot more of them then just AsXs.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: Stack-a-donk in 3b pot?

My thoughts are that he's folding every hand we beat and calling with everything that beats us. I dont think thats good. I would rather call and call non spade river....but I'd prob just call turn and fold river or fold turn.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:50 PM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Re: Stack-a-donk in 3b pot?

don't know if I'd call it a stack-a-donk since you probably can't expect to get called by worse >30% or so but it looks fine to me.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Stack-a-donk in 3b pot?

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My thoughts are that he's folding every hand we beat and calling with everything that beats us.

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Agreed. But, when we take the elevator up to level 2, we get $92 out of worse hands. And he pays $233 to hit his flush in a $117 pot. So isn't there some merit to that?
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Stack-a-donk in 3b pot?

meh I think it's ok if I he might make a crying call with TT or worse, if not then I think cc may be better. I guess if you think he could be holding spades it's fine
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: Stack-a-donk in 3b pot?

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My thoughts are that he's folding every hand we beat and calling with everything that beats us.

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Agreed. But, when we take the elevator up to level 2, we get $92 out of worse hands. And he pays $233 to hit his flush in a $117 pot. So isn't there some merit to that?

[/ QUOTE ]not if he has a better hand a lot more often than a worse hand and a flush draw hardly ever.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Stack-a-donk in 3b pot?

Imo he has a worse hand here more than a better hand, with a spade draw occasionally.
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