1/2 NL winrates?

celiboy · #1 11-12-2007, 06:51 PM

I searched for this, but don't see anything anywhere on expected winrate at live 1/2NL even though I'm sure it's been debated before. I've pretty much stopped playing online due to the difficulty of moving $ around and the death of bonuses. Would $15 per hour after accounting for rake, tips, etc be a reasonable target for 1/2NL or is that abit too high? I've never played live, but there are a couple casinos nearby that I'd like to try out if it's worth my while.

TheStation · #2 11-12-2007, 06:59 PM

What is the min, max, and average buyin of the game at the casinos near you? This will have a big impact on your winrate.

Before seeing those numbers, I can say that $15/hr should be attainable, what were your online winrates at various limits? This can also help in finding a target number for you.

Seb86 · #3 11-12-2007, 06:59 PM

8bb/h is sustainable, but you need to be the best player at the table and play at a casino that doenst rake more than 4$ per pot and play pretty fast (at very least 40 hands / h)

celiboy · #4 11-12-2007, 07:15 PM

We have alot of casinos in the city. Buy ins range from 200, 500 and even 1000 at one place. My NL experience is limited to a few thousand hands as I played pretty much limit online. I'm not interested in playing limit live as I understand it's pretty much dead at this point.

black00gt · #5 11-12-2007, 07:33 PM

1000 buy in for 1/2 NL? I'm guessing that raises of $25-$40 preflop are common.

BK1248 · #6 11-12-2007, 08:03 PM

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We have alot of casinos in the city. Buy ins range from 200, 500 and even 1000 at one place. My NL experience is limited to a few thousand hands as I played pretty much limit online. I'm not interested in playing limit live as I understand it's pretty much dead at this point.

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limit isnt dead live, online the games have dried up considerably, but live is still full of idiots.

celiboy · #7 11-12-2007, 08:04 PM

All things being equal, would one make more at 3/6 limit or 1/2NL?

Assani Fisher · #8 11-12-2007, 09:07 PM

If you've only played a few thousand hands then you need to worry about what is attainable for you and not what is attainable for the best players.

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jjshabado · #9 11-12-2007, 09:15 PM

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We have alot of casinos in the city. Buy ins range from 200, 500 and even 1000 at one place. My NL experience is limited to a few thousand hands as I played pretty much limit online. I'm not interested in playing limit live as I understand it's pretty much dead at this point.

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I had no idea places had $1000 buy ins for 1/2NL. Do people buy in for that amount? I think you could make a very decent amount this deep. Seriously, I'm drooling a bit.

No One · #10 11-12-2007, 11:32 PM

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8bb/h is sustainable, but you need to be the best player at the table and play at a casino that doenst rake more than 4$ per pot and play pretty fast (at very least 40 hands / h)

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I wouldn't drive 35 minutes one way to a casino 3 times a week if I was only making $16/hr. Over the past approximately 90 hours I have sustained about $80/hr... I am still trying to figure out if the other players are just that bad, I am just that good, or I have been that lucky...I think it is a combo of all the above. Won 12 out of last 15 sessions. 1 loss I felt like throwing chips around and having fun so I got drunk and did just that, haha. Another loss I played awful (and laughed about it) after a big weekend with a tournament cash. The 3rd loss came from a huge pot where myself and the villain both back doored a flush, me with the second nuts, him with the nuts, neither put the other on the flush the way the hand was played.