T9 5sng.. I want to shove.

[daveT]

Poker Stars, $5 + $0.25 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: 1,970
Hero (BB): 1,030

Pre-Flop: (30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
SB calls 10, Hero checks

Flop: (40) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets 20</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to 80</font>

I felt like he had a flush draw. After the past few days, I don't feel like following through with my reads. Yeah, I am pretty sure he would have called.

And no, he is not going to fold anything, there is no purpose to raise pf.

[tmcdmck]

even if he has a fd, why would you shove rather than bet pot? (genuine question). that way you could get value and then shove turn to protect your hand. also wow at having confidence in a read based on that little info (need some serious serious history to read this as a fd, rather than a wider range).

also, i would like to debate whether or not fold equity free raises that are not for value are pointless or not. I can think of several other purposes of a raise (ie build a pot up to take it down, metagame, maintaining image and gameflow etc).

[pushing22]

i had a rough weekend myself. this shov emight have looked good sunday night. Now that I started running well again no way this is a shove.

[daveT]

For the read: I have nearly 400 games at this level and another 200 or so at the 10s, where there is no visible difference in play. I am confident that after seeing 15 hands that this person plays a certain way.

The free raise play can be used effectively at this level.

Running good or not, I want to know if I should get all of my money in the center before a spade hits, preferably before the river.

[Kalledrengen]

I think shoving here is a bit drastic, you are 51BB deep!

Since you did not post any read on villain, other than you think he calls too much, but that dosen't help us much in this situation where he has become the aggresor.
Has he been overly aggresive throughout the match? Has he been rerasing a ton?

I probably fold this one unless villain has been overly aggresive. The pot is not all that big and you will be OOP for the rest of the hand against a guy who check-raised you. Let it go and find a better spot imo

[daveT]

My read is that he is on a flush draw.

[Kalledrengen]

Well I think your read is too specific, does not make sense to rule out hands like JT, A3 or whatnot, well unless you have played this villain a ton and have seen him raise your OOP bet OTF a lot with draws.

[pushing22]

I agree that it is a mistake to be too sure he is on a draw. If he has ace then I am sure he will call a push and you are only 20%

[twonine29]

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My read is that he is on a flush draw.

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so re-raise to 240-270 and play accordingly. if he shoves...u can instacall since u "know" he has a flush draw. if he hits a spade on the turn u can fold since u "know".

[tautomer]

Well, hopefully he has a flush draw with low cards and not something like QsJs or KsQs (any KsXs, QsXs aren't really that great for you either) but those two would be raised preflop so I guess no worries. I would also assume that any ace gets raised preflop as well so maybe shoving really is the best play. Knowing the villain's preflop limping range with a 2:1 chiplead in the first blind level would help lol. Easy as pie.