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Old 10-11-2007, 05:27 PM
Taso Taso is offline
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Default Californian city bans smoking in apartments and condos

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...ed=rss.bayarea

I'm not sure how I feel about this. Well, I guess I am, I'm very much against it.

The issue was being solved privately, condo groups were taking it upon themselves to not allow smoking in their buildings. I don't see the need for the government to step in and say "here is what you can and cannot do in your own home."

Is this unconstitutional? I think it is, but I don't know which provision would relate to it.

On a related note:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071011/ap_o...1l75akjVV7q188F

California bans smoking in a car with minors.

I actually agree with this one, not sure there's a way for the private market to fix this, and its essentially child abuse.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Californian city bans smoking in apartments and condos

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California bans smoking in a car with minors.

I actually agree with this one, not sure there's a way for the private market to fix this

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Well, if roads were privatized then road owners would be able to make whatever rules they wanted. So of course if the government can "fix it" by monopolizing roads and forbidding it on their roads, it should be obvious that private road owners could as well.

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, and its essentially child abuse.

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I'm not quite with you here. What about parents who feed their kids too much junk food? Don't hug them enough? Don't read to them when they're small children? What about smoking at home, is that different than cars? Should we ban smoking in homes with minors? I think legislating against "bad parenting" is too hard. There's just too many factors in play to start picking some out and banning/mandating them.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:16 PM
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:17 PM
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My father smoked when I was growing up--at home, in the car, wherever. Stinky? Yes. Abusive? Give me a break.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:20 PM
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My father smoked when I was growing up--at home, in the car, wherever. Stinky? Yes. Abusive? Give me a break.

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Would you feel this way if next time you went to the doctor you had cancer?
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:24 PM
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I don't see the need for the government to step in and say "here is what you can and cannot do in your own home."

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Please consider donating or volunteering for Ron Paul, whom I am certain would agree wholeheartedly.

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This isn't the federal government, would the pres even be able to affect these issues?
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:53 PM
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Should we also outlaw using cusswords in front of children?
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:01 PM
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Also this is truly dumb.
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:10 PM
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Should we also outlaw using cusswords in front of children?



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We had a case in Michigan a while back involving this. A guy was convicted for cursing infront of a child.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/1999/99jun13/world.htm

The story is at the bottom of the page.
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: Californian city bans smoking in apartments and condos

Taso, as before, just wait til you see how many people post in this thread expressing their disdain for your right to your own free choices.

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