Hand in which I fold TPSK for one bet on the river

[Leader]

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you c/c turn c/f river?

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I like a turn c/c and I think it broadens his river range significantly enough to call.

[milesdyson]

i also check turn given your flop play and agree that you should c/c the river after checking the turn.

[MrEngenic]

I would never bet the flop, and I don't like the river fold.

[lippy]

Ed Miller would slap you!

[cboevey]

Could someone explain why you would call the turn raise and then fold to a river bet when it clearly did not improve his hand? Why not just fold to the turn raise and save yourself a bet?

[milesdyson]

hand: KQ
board: JT8K
pot: 8bb

[SparkMan]

I think it is a borderline call. I think you'll see AK here a lot of the time. But you'll gain some info for future ref.

[veganmav]

p.s. I fold

[Heisenb3rg]

because he didnt raise the flop I would discount hands other than KQ , KTs, AQ, AK very signifcantly but not entirely.

Adding a few bluffs in there ( you cant totally discount this possibility) and I think you have a pretty close to indifferent situation on the river, leaning towards a fold.

Not really sure how much a semi passive donk "slowplays" hands like or AA/JJ/TT/88 on a board like this or doesnt raise a hand like KJ. Pretty much the crucial variable to the hand.

That being said, i infinitely prefer a turn c/c, because you are behind against his range on the turn, and it gives him more incentive to bluff with hands like 77/AT.

If he decides to check his other hands behind, most hands you are ahead of are drawing pretty slim, so giving them a free card isnt that bad.

Flop donk is pretty bad (not from a EV perspective, but from a obvious decision perspective) , your draw isnt as strong as it looks so its not happening for value, your never taking down a pot and your oop [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[danzasmack]

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p.s. I fold

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if you c/c the turn i think a river c/f is <font color="blue">blargamel </font>