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Old 08-30-2007, 02:13 AM
shane88888 shane88888 is offline
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Default Re: Live Flop Play: How Many Bets?

Easy answer:

100,108,882 games 55.328 secs 1,809,371 games/sec

Board: Tc 3c 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.301% 40.30% 00.00% 40345710 0.00 { Jc9c }
Hand 1: 59.699% 59.70% 00.00% 59764205 0.00 { TdTh }
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:33 AM
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I think we can settle down.

Board: Tc 3c 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.616% 51.62% 00.00% 26797650 0.00 { Jc9c }
Hand 1: 48.384% 48.38% 00.00% 25119568 0.00 { AcAd }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.254% 56.25% 00.00% 154291495 0.00 { Jc9c }
Hand 1: 43.746% 43.75% 00.00% 119986134 0.00 { AdAh }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.660% 45.66% 00.00% 33594480 0.00 { Jc9c }
Hand 1: 54.340% 54.34% 00.00% 39981343 0.00 { QcQd }
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: Live Flop Play: How Many Bets?

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I'd go for the 6th bet because of your image here.

I don't think the responses have given that enough consideration.

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Sorry what's changed between 4th and 6th bet? All the others folded after villains 3rd bet, so why go to 6th if not all the way?

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What has changed? I think the villain's range has gotten smaller (we are now less likely to win). However, taking it to 6-bets can gain us advantages on turn and river especially if we don't think he will 7-bet flop or donk turn. I reckon we should call, but going to 6-bets doesn't seem too bad to me and agaisnt some I think it would be quite correct especially in an uncapped game with 20 BBs behind us.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:16 AM
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Default Re: Live Flop Play: How Many Bets?

okay. time for more info. an hour or so earlier villain limps in EP, callers to me, i raise AK, flop top pair on an A63 two toned board and villain calls me down with JJ. he didn't raise pf. does that change anyone's analysis? i mean, it should actually shrink his range; still, he's putting in all this action for some reason...
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:28 AM
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okay. time for more info. an hour or so earlier villain limps in EP, callers to me, i raise AK, flop top pair on an A63 two toned board and villain calls me down with JJ. he didn't raise pf. does that change anyone's analysis? i mean, it should actually shrink his range; still, he's putting in all this action for some reason...

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Interesting. Probably makes a set less likely, and a monster pocket pair or the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]/Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] more likely. I think this makes one more reraise from us slightly better. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Doesn't change my action much, I still think he usually has a set here.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: Live Flop Play: How Many Bets?

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okay. time for more info. an hour or so earlier villain limps in EP, callers to me, i raise AK, flop top pair on an A63 two toned board and villain calls me down with JJ. he didn't raise pf. does that change anyone's analysis? i mean, it should actually shrink his range; still, he's putting in all this action for some reason...

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Interesting. Probably makes a set less likely, and a monster pocket pair or the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]/Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] more likely. I think this makes one more reraise from us slightly better. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Doesn't change my action much, I still think he usually has a set here.

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also fwiw, he never has a bigger flush draw here. AK and AQ are drawing hands to him. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: Live Flop Play: How Many Bets?

If he has AA, you should be willing to go all in.

If he has AA or TT, you should be willing to go as many bets so that he gets the last bet in on the flop, preserving your implied odds.

Decide for yourself.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:41 AM
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But if he has TT+, 88, you're behind.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:05 PM
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But if he has TT+, 88, you're behind.

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Read the read?
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Live Flop Play: How Many Bets?

Ah, missed that somehow, thanks. Still, FWIW, you often see players play the same hand from the same position differently because they're feeling lucky or whatever.
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