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Old 08-28-2007, 04:48 PM
ddubois ddubois is offline
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Default Re: i always want to fold but i feel like i\'m supposed to call

But a QJ board seems like a crappy one to give free cards on. A/Q/T are all ugly.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: i always want to fold but i feel like i\'m supposed to call

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I think checking this flop is a pretty good idea for a few reasons:

1) stacks. Its often tough to get stacks in good here when we're 150x deep.
2) QJ on board. Two very real dangers for us in terms of sets, but also we can pretty much guarantee to get as much or more value from one pair hands like AQ/KQ/AJ on later streets by checking behind the flop
3) we aren't too concerned about giving free cards here, really. some cards suck, but its not like we have to stack off if they come or anything.


As played, probably get it in just because of how big the pot is and how crazy this guy seems from the limited sample of hands on him.

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I think this is spot on. I would also add that bigger 3-bet preflop is better.

And yes, as played you are stuck in this spot.
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:12 AM
Josh. Josh. is offline
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Default Re: i always want to fold but i feel like i\'m supposed to call

flop check is standard vs a tag. even with 35 hands, 50/30 means he's played 17 or 18 hands and raised 10. this almost certainly means he is not a lag of some sort. checking gives up the opportunity to bet-bet-bet and stack his AQ, KQ, AJ
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: i always want to fold but i feel like i\'m supposed to call

raise more pf plz. check back flop or bet/fold although i'm not sure if i would lay it down at the table.
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:18 AM
Boquense Boquense is offline
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Default Re: i always want to fold but i feel like i\'m supposed to call

This is TheMetetron and you are all idiots.

That is all.
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:45 AM
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This is TheMetetron and you are all idiots.

That is all.

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what an incredibly lame post
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:39 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: i always want to fold but i feel like i\'m supposed to call

I'd just completely ignore the stats with only 35 hands on him.

I don't mind a flop check, but I'd bet it a fair amount of the time as well. Whether to bet or check depends quite a bit on who villain is, but I can go either way vs an unknown, with a bit of an inclination towards more aggressive lines.

If I did bet it, I'd fold it easy with no reads, on this board.
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:31 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: i always want to fold but i feel like i\'m supposed to call

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I'd just completely ignore the stats with only 35 hands on him.

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Wow, do you really mean this? This is so stupid.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: i always want to fold but i feel like i\'m supposed to call

Push flop so you dont think about it any more. you cnat play for pot control aftercalling 220 of 680
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:14 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Push flop so you dont think about it any more. you cnat play for pot control aftercalling 220 of 680

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this is very very bad.
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