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Old 08-16-2007, 01:28 PM
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4bet to 36BB


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Make it 30
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:32 PM
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:32 PM
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Of course there are always unique situations that may come up, but I think overall you cannot put a person on a tight enough range to fold any hand you were willing to 4bet when getting ~2-1 on your money preflop.

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polarize your 4betting range
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:33 PM
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4bet to 36BB


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Make it 30

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ok, so 70 to win 130. Use BG's 4betting hands AQ,TT+. What range do to you consistantly believe you are up against to warrent a fold here?
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:46 PM
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4bet to 36BB


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Make it 30

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ok, so 70 to win 130. Use BG's 4betting hands AQ,TT+. What range do to you consistantly believe you are up against to warrent a fold here?

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Of course you don't 4-bet-fold those hands wtf. You 4-bet 53o.
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: 4betting theory

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4bet to 36BB


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Make it 30

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ok, so 70 to win 130. Use BG's 4betting hands AQ,TT+. What range do to you consistantly believe you are up against to warrent a fold here?

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Of course you don't 4-bet-fold those hands wtf. You 4-bet 53o.

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That was my original point that I was asked to explain. In general, a hand you will normally 4-bet should not be folded preflop.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:34 PM
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4bet to 36BB


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Make it 30

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ok, so 70 to win 130. Use BG's 4betting hands AQ,TT+. What range do to you consistantly believe you are up against to warrent a fold here?

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Of course you don't 4-bet-fold those hands wtf. You 4-bet 53o.

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That was my original point that I was asked to explain. In general, a hand you will normally 4-bet should not be folded preflop.

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Plz be trying harder to explain your points lol.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:37 PM
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pokerishard- Against light 3-bettors, you can profitably re-raise with premium hands and junk hands, folding the junk to a push.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: 4betting theory

Why so down on Cutler? He's a natural leader who moves really well and has a strong but not overpowering throwing arm. He won't put up shocking fantasy numbers, but he should win a good number of games. IMHO, the comparison to a young Brett Farvre is pretty accurate (had Vandy tickets while he was in college, so have seen him play a lot).


Also, I've never 4bet in my life with the intention of folding if shoved on. Guess I should put that in the arsenal. Do people pretty much either shove or fold to a 4bet?
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:56 PM
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jay cutler is gonna b tha man this year. i am soooo stoked for tha nfl year to b under way. the broncos have the makings of being a great team. too bad their r like 3 or 4 other teams that could vary well b amazingly good too. so who knows. i expect a ton of good games tho for sure.
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