Day 1 ME Hand - The Trouble With Small PPs

[mclaughlin04]

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I would likely fold preflop because it's just an ugly spot on this type of flop so often. Also, there's no guarantee of getting your entire stack in if you flop a 4 because he raised from the back.

On the turn, I would lead all in just because it seems to be the least bad and you will almost surely have 8-10 outs a lot of the time if he has a hand he can call with.

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I agree w/Ian. I think if you're going to play the hand (which is marginal at best) you should be pushing the turn and if you get called you'll have outs.

The c/c on flop is meh. Only way I would make the play is if I were pushing the turn.

[Clayton]

fold pre imo

[Mr.WeakTight]

you have an M around 14. you don't need to push pre-flop; so this is a rare event indeed where Betgo gets it wrong. just because he's raising from the CO doesn't mean he doesn't have anything. you're not desperate. the problem with calling is you're out of position for the rest of the hand. you've also not got the direct pot odds to set mine and as someone else mentioned, you may not get paid off if you do hit due to your position. So I think it's a pre-flop fold but a call is not terrible.

on the flop I would fold. you missed your set. you're behind to too much stuff.

on the turn I would check. planning to fold unless the bet was too small. then I might try a check-raise all-in. you'll have 10 outs and he may fold.

[shaundeeb]

yah think this is a fold pf you need to basically garuntee to get stacks in if you flop a set. Also, I don't mind a shove if you've been snug people hate calling for soo many chips even though they are euro he could be weaktight since he's been inactive.

[Cornell Fiji]

I think that all pf decisions are close although if I chose to shove preflop I would instead raise to 4500 and shove any flop.

I think a pf fold is probably best though.

As played I c/f the flop
As played I open shove the turn. People like to make big laydowns in live poker and this is a flop that could have hit you hard.

[gobboboy]

No one here would ever fold a pair here preflop and you know it. I don't think I would either with all the money in the pot plus money behind. If stacks were 10k effective I would fold.

Fold flop. Terrible flop to continue on.

[stealthmunk]

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No one here would ever fold a pair here preflop and you know it. I don't think I would either with all the money in the pot plus money behind. If stacks were 10k effective I would fold.

Fold flop. Terrible flop to continue on.

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What would qualify as a good flop to continue on with 44 gobbo as you think T75r isn't.

btw just find a fold somewhere in the hand lol.

gobbo-

Is it basically flop a set or an open-ended straight draw, otherwise fold for you with 44?

[stealthmunk]

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gobbo-

Is it basically flop a set or an open-ended straight draw, otherwise fold for you with 44?

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If this is the case, then the call preflop is undoubtedly spewage as even the biggest of nits won't be raising so tight for your implied odds to be there the times you flop your set.

[0evg0]

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No one here would ever fold a pair here preflop and you know it.

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So [censored] what?

It's the best play and it's the best play.

Who cares what people actually do? This is such a frustratingly idiotic post.