Set - ugly turn spot

Herrigel · #1 06-12-2007, 03:53 AM

Opponent is a 28/12/1 Reg., probably a losing player.
Postflop he goes way too far with marginal holdings.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($516.50)
Button ($394)
Hero ($433.50)
BB ($553.75)
UTG ($400)
MP ($400)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $16, 3 folds, Hero calls $14, 1 fold.

Flop: ($36) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $28, Hero raises to $110, UTG calls $82.

Turn: ($256) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
$274 left. Hero pukes and...?

After the Flop action I put him on a wide range (PP, FD, OESD, some combos).

Now what?

Mench · #2 06-12-2007, 04:19 AM

yeah, gotta stick it in here, though i don't feel too great about it.

Morrek · #3 06-12-2007, 04:34 AM

I probably push but don't feel too good about it. I could see an argument for check/folding if he's generally passive and bets big.

stigmata · #4 06-12-2007, 06:10 AM

I agree, push. Or if you feel reasonably confident he will check back AA or worse, then you can c/f.

donkmagic · #5 06-12-2007, 06:52 AM

why do we have to stick it in here?

yoshi86 · #6 06-12-2007, 06:57 AM

CRAI turn. someone this passive doesn't have a wide range UTG, especially after his call on the flop. A big part of his range includes overpairs with a heart if he bets big.

bigbabyjesus · #7 06-12-2007, 07:01 AM

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CRAI turn. someone this passive doesn't have a wide range UTG, especially after his call on the flop. A big part of his range includes overpairs with a heart if he bets big.

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I don't see him betting the turn with overpairs. People aren't as dumb as they use to be and play for pot control/free cards more.

I just shove the turn, weird spot.

yoshi86 · #8 06-12-2007, 07:46 AM

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I don't see him betting the turn with overpairs. People aren't as dumb as they use to be and play for pot control/free cards more.

I just shove the turn, weird spot.

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I don't like turning a hand this strong into a bluff. I want villain to put more money in.

I value bet a blank river too FWIW

Scipio · #9 06-12-2007, 08:05 AM

I see an easy check raise ai on the turn...

What do you think about donkbet/push on the flop? It was my mainline at 50-200NL but i stopped playing donkbets...

Hattifnatt · #10 06-12-2007, 08:07 AM

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I see an easy check raise ai on the turn...

What do you think about donkbet/push on the flop? It was my mainline at 50-200NL but i stopped playing donkbets...

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in my experience the bet/3-bet approach with sets worked very well at 2/4-3/6 until about a year ago. Maybe ppl in general are more familiar with this nowadays.