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Old 02-26-2007, 01:20 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: Two hands, live, just wondering if I made the correct plays

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yup, if you play KK like they're Rocket fuel you might as well not play at all. The odds of two players being dealt AA and KK on the same hand are pretty low, something like 500-1, I don't know the exact number but I know its highly unlikely. It does happen, but not often enough for me to fold KK PF(in most situations)

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This is a complete hijack but your cards are known in this spot. You have KK. So looking for the odds of AA vs KK without knowing that you have KK is irrelevant. That is like saying that, when there are three aces on the flop, the odds that someone has the fourth ace are close to nil because the odds of flopping quads is so small.

The odds are 220:1 of being dealt aces (its actually better than that after we remove the kings from the deck)

The odds of someone having aces at a 9 handed table is therefore 24.44:1. (220/9)

Therefore if you are at a 10 person table and you have KK then you will run into AA approximately 4% of the time.

Not exactly the .2% (500:1) that you claimed in your reply
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:25 PM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: Two hands, live, just wondering if I made the correct plays

Hand 1: Fold
Hand 2: Fold

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Two hands, live, just wondering if I made the correct plays

I'd be more inclined to fold KK had villain raised to 400 PF than pushing. obv i'd still push

your friends are terrible at poker. dont ever listen to them
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Two hands, live, just wondering if I made the correct plays

well, i said something like, i wasn't sure of the exact number. 4% is still very low. Still my point was, Under "most circumstances" I'm not folding KK because I'm afraid a raiser or r/r has me dominated with AA.
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:53 PM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: Two hands, live, just wondering if I made the correct plays

Thanks, everyone. I appreciate your kindness in replying.

I'll take your advice, kniper [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Sorry for being results oriented in my post. I actually tried not to be. I just wanted to give you as much info as I could on my read and situation.

Would posting villain's hands be wrong now? Seriuosly, I'm new to this. I always like to know villains' hands after a post has been replied to often. It helps me to know how other people are playing and what they might be thinking.
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:56 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: Two hands, live, just wondering if I made the correct plays

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Would posting villain's hands be wrong now?

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If you want to get it off your chest then you can post results now... I don't think that they are going to influence your feedback at all.

Always keep in mind that results in this one hand truely are irrelevant. It is the long run that matters.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Two hands, live, just wondering if I made the correct plays

Agreed. I don't think the results would change anyone's feedback in this case.
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: Two hands, live, just wondering if I made the correct plays

Results are fun, feel free to post them once you feel discussion has satisfied you.
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:23 PM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: Two hands, live, just wondering if I made the correct plays

No, I realize that. I hope it wouldn't influence the feedback.

I like seeing how villains think. However, in this case, it doesn't matter, because he's a pretty poor player.

First hand: A8o
Second hand: AQs (better, at least)
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