Nit vs. Nit - Page 2

slickss · #11 10-23-2006, 02:11 PM

Wow, 45o? Well if he is playing like that he deserves to lose a $200 pot. GC.

hanster · #12 10-23-2006, 03:05 PM

Standard

kurto · #13 10-23-2006, 03:11 PM

there's a variety of 2 pairs that make sense as well.

Dave I · #14 10-23-2006, 03:22 PM

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78 is the only 2 pair possibility here. I know he is not calling preflop with any other 2 pair. And, I'm pretty sure he raises that 2 pair before the river.

Besides knowing this guy, I suspect that would be the case for most tags. What decent tag calls preflop with Ax or any other possible 2 pair when a 17/x/x or so raises UTG?

kurto · #15 10-23-2006, 03:29 PM

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78 is the only 2 pair possibility here. I know he is not calling preflop with any other 2 pair. And, I'm pretty sure he raises that 2 pair before the river.

Besides knowing this guy, I suspect that would be the case for most tags. What decent tag calls preflop with Ax or any other possible 2 pair when a 17/x/x or so raises UTG?

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When a guy calls 23% of all hands, wouldn't that include a hell of a lot of weak aces? I lose a lot of pots to people calling with their weak pairs and hitting their 3 outer on the turn or river.

I concede that you obviously have a better read on this player then I do, yet I'm never surprised at the horrible calls that people make (and then river someone). Just putting it out there.

pokerchap · #16 10-23-2006, 03:31 PM

wait, you called and he had 45o?

Dave I · #17 10-23-2006, 04:04 PM

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When a guy calls 23% of all hands, wouldn't that include a hell of a lot of weak aces? I lose a lot of pots to people calling with their weak pairs and hitting their 3 outer on the turn or river.

I concede that you obviously have a better read on this player then I do, yet I'm never surprised at the horrible calls that people make (and then river someone). Just putting it out there.

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23% is still pretty tight and he was playing even tighter than that this session. He may limp AXs but I doubt he is calling a raise that came from an even tighter player with those. I would have been shocked if I saw A8/A7 or worse.

Then again I was shocked at what he really did have. I highly expected a busted draw or a bluff with something like AQ/QQ, a split, or that I was crushed by set/straight.

wdead · #18 10-23-2006, 04:06 PM

EZ fold nice hand

Shaddux · #19 10-23-2006, 05:48 PM

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IMO c/c is superiour to any other line here.

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I c/c as much money as I would normally lead for.

Oranzith · #20 10-23-2006, 08:09 PM

Why are not we not value betting here? What are we really scared of? 56 / 78 / Ax 2 pair or AA? Two busted flush draws out there are out there, and good/nitty player normally wouldn't be calling down to the river with bad pot odds (although i guess there would be implied odds seeing the pot pot push theory goin). We are laying down 3:1 because we fear 3 hands that don't make much sense?

Can someone explain this to me? I don't doubt everyone's logic, but also don't really see how we feel so strongly we are burned