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Old 10-21-2006, 05:27 PM
metsandfinsfan metsandfinsfan is offline
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Default Re: delgado for HOF??

his weighted OPS is 1 pt higher. Winfield was more consistent but no black ink so not dominant in any category

I am conceding that Winfield was definitely the better player, but am arguing that it was closer than you guys are giving credit for
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Old 10-21-2006, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: delgado for HOF??

Jim Rice: 9058 PA, 128 Adj OPS+
Dave Winfield, 12358, 129 Adj OPS+

Rice's OPS+ is artificially inflated compared to a guy like Andre Dawson and Dave Winfield because he didn't play through his decline phase. For example, through Dave Winfield's first 9500 PA, his AdjOPS+ was 134.

Also, when you consider Rice was overrated by OPS because of his low OBP, and some of the guys I mentioned were CFs (Dawson, Murphy), he's closer to those guys than Dave Winfield.
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