AK vs a reraise (concept) - Page 2

jsnipes28 · #11 07-05-2006, 03:36 PM

I pretty much never fold AK to a 3bet unless its from a real tight raiser. Almost all the 3/6 regs are 3betting pretty light and it's more whether I want to call or 4bet. Like BJ said, 4betting more OOP and calling more in position.

Problems is a lot of TAGs i think view 4bet as always being AK and will convince themselves and push 99+ which sucks because you have to end up calling. I really need to work on this too bc i stack off wayyyy to often.

Usually it's when I rr though and get called down and I push turn on low board. I tinhk folding sucks but you have to really play well postflop and not be a spew monkey like myself. Everyone's calling range is pretty damn wide too.

Villain here is 17/11, standard tight TAG.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($1195.30)
Hero ($600)
UTG ($270.19)
MP ($271.05)
CO ($650)
Button ($701.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls $6, MP calls $6, 1 fold, Button raises to $33, 1 fold, Hero raises to $84, UTG folds, MP folds, Button calls $57.

Flop: ($195) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $150, Button calls $150.

Turn: ($495) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero calls $360 (All-In), Button calls $360.

River: ($1215) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1215

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ah Kc (two pair, nines and fives).
Button has Td 9d (full house, nines full of fives).
Outcome: Button wins $1215.

goodguy_1 · #12 07-05-2006, 03:52 PM

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It seems like pushing would have a higher EV than calling and hoping to hit a flop against someone who you think has a wider range. Do you ever push?

Krishan

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good question

thedustbustr · #13 07-05-2006, 04:05 PM

i'd often push if he was shortish... i'm almost never pushing with full stacks without a read that makes this whole question meaningless

Jamougha · #14 07-05-2006, 04:08 PM

Generally, fold. If he's rr'ing light then maybe 4-bet, maybe call and push the flop over his c-bet.

Big_Jim · #15 07-05-2006, 04:10 PM

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i'd often push if he was shortish... i'm almost never pushing with full stacks without a read that makes this whole question meaningless

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Basically my thoughts.

I have made the push a few times, with a read, though.

krishan · #16 07-05-2006, 04:11 PM

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i'd often push if he was shortish... i'm almost never pushing with full stacks without a read that makes this whole question meaningless

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Basically my thoughts.

I have made the push a few times, with a read, though.

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What is the read? 22-AA, AJs+?

That he would lay down QQ?

Krishan

Big_Jim · #17 07-05-2006, 04:13 PM

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i'd often push if he was shortish... i'm almost never pushing with full stacks without a read that makes this whole question meaningless

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Basically my thoughts.

I have made the push a few times, with a read, though.

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What is the read? 22-AA, AJs+?

That he would lay down QQ?

Krishan

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These, and whether or not I think he might call with a worse hand.

TheWorstPlayer · #18 07-05-2006, 04:13 PM

That he's a donkey.

krishan · #19 07-05-2006, 04:17 PM

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What is the read? 22-AA, AJs+?

That he would lay down QQ?

Krishan

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These, and whether or not I think he might call with a worse hand.

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By worse hand you mean an unpaired hand weaker than AK? I don't think I've ever had that read on someone. I'm sure there out there though.

Krishan

thedustbustr · #20 07-05-2006, 04:18 PM

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whether or not I think he might call with a worse hand.

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i.e. AQ