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#1
11-08-2007, 02:40 AM
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Line check
I wont always r/r here pf but w/e, do u guys b/f flop, b/c even? Not many strong reads on BTN but he is 26/13 and sb is that tatiana opukik or w/e.
Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LeggoPoker Hand History Converter SB: $167.95 Hero (BB): $100 UTG: $47 CO: $100.25 BTN: $125.25 Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB) 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $4</font>, SB calls $3.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, BTN calls $12, SB calls $12 Flop: ($48) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players) SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks Turn: ($48) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $25</font>, Hero calls $25, BTN calls $25 River: ($123) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players) SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $84.25 and is All-In</font>, 2 folds Results: $123 Pot ($3 Rake) BTN mucked and WON $120 (+$79 NET) How often do u guys call this river readless - i think he def plays all his boats like this but do u guys c unkowns' busted draws shoving into 2 ppl enough of the time here? 
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#4
11-08-2007, 02:49 AM
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Re: Line check
yeah, definitely bet the flop - you showed strength by re-raising and will often take it down on the flop as you're repping a strong pair. i'd bet 40 on the flop. if someone raises, then you can look at folding, i think, depending on the player.
edit: oops didn't see the stack sizes. if you bet 40 on flop, you're basically committed, so yeah i'd call any reraise (which would be all in for you). as played, i'd probably think about calling the river and fold. that's also why i prefer betting the flop, as it makes the hand play out easier for you.
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#5
11-08-2007, 02:58 AM
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Re: Line check
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yeah, definitely bet the flop - you showed strength by re-raising and will often take it down on the flop as you're repping a strong pair. i'd bet 40 on the flop. if someone raises, then you can look at folding, i think, depending on the player. edit: oops didn't see the stack sizes. if you bet 40 on flop, you're basically committed, so yeah i'd call any reraise (which would be all in for you). as played, i'd probably think about calling the river and fold. that's also why i prefer betting the flop, as it makes the hand play out easier for you. [/ QUOTE ] i guess thats the downside, betting commits me if i make a healthy bet, a weak bet generally leads to 2nd guessing on a decently dry board like this (ppl could be playing back cause of my weak bet) - but i doubt getting it in on the flop is gonna be in my favour without a read that villains r donkish. Overall though i think betting 30 and folding to a raise readless is prob the best play, as played flop - r turn and river fine?
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#6
11-08-2007, 02:59 AM
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Re: Line check
Markusis, this is for the post that you deleted. The A5 one. Took awhile to write it so figured I'd throw it your way.
************************************************** * Honestly I think the best thing you could have done was wait for a better hand to press him with. Once you made that initial decision to 4bet, man I mean you really only have about a PSB left. I can see where you're coming from on the flop check. Once you stick that $30 in, the rest is determined. You're certainly not folding now. You have the maniac right where (hopefully) you want him. Like I said, the biggest thing I would change is the hand you selected to finally look him up with.
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#7
11-08-2007, 03:04 AM
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Re: Line check
Bet the flop. If Tatiana Whodafck shoves, instacall. If the other dude shoves, whatever, use your Spidey-sense.
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#8
11-08-2007, 03:06 AM
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Re: Line check
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Markusis, this is for the post that you deleted. The A5 one. Took awhile to write it so figured I'd throw it your way. ************************************************** * Honestly I think the best thing you could have done was wait for a better hand to press him with. Once you made that initial decision to 4bet, man I mean you really only have about a PSB left. I can see where you're coming from on the flop check. Once you stick that $30 in, the rest is determined. You're certainly not folding now. You have the maniac right where (hopefully) you want him. Like I said, the biggest thing I would change is the hand you selected to finally look him up with. [/ QUOTE ] thx for reply, i had deleted since i thought hand was decently straight forward after pf which is obv player dependant - i agree that after betting the turn so weak to induce i def cant fold and i really thought he would give my 4bet decent credit as i hadnt gotten out of line yet at that point. But waiting for a good hand would have prob been profitable against said opponent. Turns out he had jj and played the hand pretty hideously IMO - he shouldve shoved or folded pf and i dont know if turn was for value or to maybe fold kk or qq - either way pretty terrible as i was clearly potstuck.
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#9
11-08-2007, 03:08 AM
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Re: Line check
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Bet the flop. If Tatiana Whodafck shoves, instacall. If the other dude shoves, whatever, use your Spidey-sense. [/ QUOTE ] what notes do u have on her? she plays a hell of a lot and it would be nice to know some more about her, sry if this goes in ftp regs.
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#10
11-08-2007, 03:25 AM
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Re: Line check
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Bet the flop. If Tatiana Whodafck shoves, instacall. If the other dude shoves, whatever, use your Spidey-sense. [/ QUOTE ] what notes do u have on her? she plays a hell of a lot and it would be nice to know some more about her, sry if this goes in ftp regs. [/ QUOTE ] Cliff notes: call.
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