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Old 04-10-2007, 10:28 AM
Jason Strasser (strassa2) Jason Strasser (strassa2) is offline
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Default Re: Common Critical Situation on Flop: To raise or not to raise TPTK?

flynn,

in my opinion this is a pretty silly question to ask because it always comes down to the opponent. some guys you feel totally comfortable raising here for value, and calling an all in. Some guys you are much better off playing a smaller pot with a hand like this, and you are better off calling the flop. just dont ever see where a post like this can get anywhere.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:42 AM
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Just a little off-topic comment.
I hope your book wont be filled with too many multiway pots examples. Please please please dont come up with another "how to play QQ after 3 limpers a raise and 2 calls from SB" a'la Sklansky NL wisdom ...

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it ain't.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:42 AM
Orlando Salazar Orlando Salazar is offline
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Default Re: Common Critical Situation on Flop: To raise or not to raise TPTK?

I guess you limped your AQ there, ehhh?
Since you don't raise with AQ and 10 people are dealt, what is P that someone has QQ-AA, Q5s, Q8, 85s, 55, 67s, 88? Just on math, you coulnd't have much equity. I'd raise to 300. 400 a blank turn or ace, check fold any 8, 5, 9 or 4. Check call any Q and fold to a river overbet. QJ has to either instafold or raise and shut down here if it gets called. God, I hate live and full ring games. And WTF, i know slansky says limp with AQ but I never would.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:06 AM
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flynn,

in my opinion this is a pretty silly question to ask because it always comes down to the opponent. some guys you feel totally comfortable raising here for value, and calling an all in. Some guys you are much better off playing a smaller pot with a hand like this, and you are better off calling the flop. just dont ever see where a post like this can get anywhere.

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i thought some of the comments were pretty good.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:07 AM
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I guess you limped your AQ there, ehhh?

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5-10, 4 in the pot, $120 pot. Somebody raised to $30 preflop.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:16 AM
Orlando Salazar Orlando Salazar is offline
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oops....then play it harder...
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:15 PM
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kinna hard to play tptk the same against diff opponets. some you want a free river and will call depending and some u raise flop.... ill be sure to not read your book
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: Common Critical Situation on Flop: To raise or not to raise TPTK?

I guess I can read the book if I have a dictionary around.

"I feel even four-handed there is benefit to heuristic play here, but other than gestalt it is difficult to define without choosing arbitrarily restrictive playing tendencies for my opponents."

Not sure about "collective collusive" though. Is that poetry?
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