STTF SNG->cash thread - Page 173

Scuba Chuck · #**1721** 10-17-2007, 02:52 PM

While villain does play a lot of pots, he does have a relatively tight pfr stat. Villain is 54/13/1.33.

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BB ($86.30)
Hero ($65.50)
MP ($66.45)
CO ($54.20)
Button ($61.80)
SB ($60.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $1.3, 3 folds, SB calls $1.15, BB raises to $5.15, Hero calls $3.55, SB folds.

Flop: ($11.30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $8.3, Hero raises to $21, BB raises to $89.75 (All-In), Hero calls $39.65 (All-In).

Turn: ($132.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($132.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $132.60

I think I'm a slight favorite against his likely range postflop like 55% perhaps. But not sure how aggro he'll play JJ/QQ postflop.

My question is, is there another way to play KK in a 200+ BB game? Perhaps even another thought process?

cakewalk · #**1722** 10-17-2007, 02:54 PM

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SB ($299.85)
BB ($202)
UTG ($510.80)
MP ($400.85)
Hero ($203)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB calls $16.

Turn: ($49) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($49) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $25, Hero calls $25.

the villain in this hand is the player, "weak tite" he's 21/18

i've played with him at .5/1 and some at 1/2

Scuba Chuck · #**1723** 10-17-2007, 03:07 PM

UTG has been seen opening the flop with hands here which would FOR SURE include AT and KJ, which I think are 2 of his very likely holdings. He has sucked his way out or outflopped people to get his stack. Softspot at the table.

Button is pretty aggressive with hands including raising in spots like this with 55, but he's a relatively tagish player. 22/16/3.1

In this hand, I'm 50/50 on whether button is observant about whether UTG is a donkey, and leading this flop is probably not really a scare. I don't know if I prefer to call/fold/or raise here.

In summary, I'm very ahead of UTG, but not sure about button. Thoughts?

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UTG ($338.50)
Hero ($315.30)
CO ($133.60)
Button ($158.80)
SB ($220.90)
BB ($157.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1.6, Hero calls $1.60, CO calls $1.60, Button raises to $7.2, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.60, Pot is $16.2 Hero calls $5.60, CO folds.

Flop: ($24.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets $24.4 UTG has $306 behind , Hero calls $24.40, Hero has $283 behind 

My plan was to fold if button raised.

What occured to me after the hand is that if I was button here, with this flop, holding AK/AQ, I'd prolly shove. Now thinking I should have just folded flop.

Scuba Chuck · #**1724** 10-17-2007, 03:11 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($299.85)
BB ($202)
UTG ($510.80)
MP ($400.85)
Hero ($203)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB calls $16.

Turn: ($49) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($49) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $25, Hero calls $25.

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Would you call if he bet $50? Do you suspect he 3bets AK pf?

K䲰䮥n · #**1725** 10-17-2007, 03:11 PM

dksfjklsfhashfdsafh j [censored] [censored] [censored] HE HAD AJ ALRIGHT!! AND I CALLED ALRIGHT!

Villain is 57/20/7. Lays hands down when facing resitance.

Seat 1: BlufferBoi ( $95.30 )
Seat 3: Firetribe ( $102 )
Seat 5: HeadHunter11 ( $111.30 )
Seat 6: Equillibrium ( $99.35 )
Seat 8: Bigdonkey23 ( $123.85 )
Seat 10: boxer888 ( $90.10 )
Equillibrium posts Small Blind $0.50
Bigdonkey23 posts Big Blind $1

Dealing cards
Your cards 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [Firetribe]
boxer888 raises $3
BlufferBoi folds
Firetribe calls $3
HeadHunter11 folds
Equillibrium folds
Bigdonkey23 folds

Dealing Flop K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
boxer888 bets $4
Firetribe calls $4

Dealing Turn T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
boxer888 checks
Firetribe bets $12
boxer888 calls $12

Dealing River Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
boxer888 bets $71.10
Firetribe calls $71.10

Scuba Chuck · #**1726** 10-17-2007, 03:15 PM

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dksfjklsfhashfdsafh j [censored] [censored] [censored] HE HAD AJ ALRIGHT!! AND I CALLED ALRIGHT!

Villain is 57/20/7. Lays hands down when facing resitance.

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Put him down on ur buddy list, be sure to sit with him whenever possible...

Edit: I should add, here are the following cards that make the river difficult for you. A/9/8/3 That's like 16 cards. Not to mention the potential BDFD. I usually bet more on the turn, not that it matters here. I call here 100% of the time without a reason not to.

futuredoc85 · #**1727** 10-17-2007, 03:16 PM

raising the flop would be my std line, but calling is ok too, rest of thehand is fine

GtrHtr · #**1728** 10-17-2007, 03:19 PM

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UTG has been seen opening the flop with hands here which would FOR SURE include AT and KJ, which I think are 2 of his very likely holdings. He has sucked his way out or outflopped people to get his stack. Softspot at the table.

Button is pretty aggressive with hands including raising in spots like this with 55, but he's a relatively tagish player. 22/16/3.1

In this hand, I'm 50/50 on whether button is observant about whether UTG is a donkey, and leading this flop is probably not really a scare. I don't know if I prefer to call/fold/or raise here.

In summary, I'm very ahead of UTG, but not sure about button. Thoughts?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.80 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($338.50)
Hero ($315.30)
CO ($133.60)
Button ($158.80)
SB ($220.90)
BB ($157.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1.6, Hero calls $1.60, CO calls $1.60, Button raises to $7.2, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.60, Pot is $16.2 Hero calls $5.60, CO folds.

Flop: ($24.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets $24.4 UTG has $306 behind , Hero calls $24.40, Hero has $283 behind 

My plan was to fold if button raised.

What occured to me after the hand is that if I was button here, with this flop, holding AK/AQ, I'd prolly shove. Now thinking I should have just folded flop.

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You are either getting squeezed or are wb pf. Its really hard to tell without 4 betting if you're getting squeezed, so just fold pf and stop thinking so much [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

GtrHtr · #**1729** 10-17-2007, 03:23 PM

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My question is, is there another way to play KK in a 200+ BB game? Perhaps even another thought process?

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I have no idea but I'm doing everything I can do to get in in pf after getting rr'ed.

futuredoc85 · #**1730** 10-17-2007, 05:07 PM

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My question is, is there another way to play KK in a 200+ BB game? Perhaps even another thought process?

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4-bet pre to make it easier to get all in on the flop

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