L5cd: Tougher as of late?

[Frond]

I have been playing the .50-1 L5cd on stars for a while with good success. Stopped playing for a while, came back about a month or 2 later and now they seem to be a lot tougher to beat. Is anyone else finding this or maybe its just me?

[DOMIT]

me too.. I'm seeing too many of the same people now adays.

About a couple weeks ago, I had played ~13k hands of draw on stars, and had draw notes on ~2500 ppl! That means I played with someone new one in every five hands. To me, seems incredible turnover. Now, it's more the same ppl.

Perhaps "newness" fading. Perhaps the loss of Neteller, et el. Either way, sucks.

[Frond]

Yea, I too am seeing a lot of the same names that are playing. You gotta figure that some of them have been getting a bit better. I almost always had winning sesesions playing L5cd whether they were 30 minutes or 2 hours, but now it is a lot more of a grind 4sure

[flafishy]

I'm seeing a lot fewer small-pair, gutshot donkey limps than I used to. Having a couple or three of those at every table pretty much guaranteed winning sessions for a decent player. You still see a few, but not nearly as many as there used to be -- where used to be there might be one or two of those players at any given table, now you'll run across one of them only every now and then.

[Frond]

I agree. I don't consider myself an expert on draw, but seemd like it only took ABC play to do well a few months ago.

[Big Limpin]

is it possible draw is the kind of game you are immediately good at, then dont really improve....but your higher expectations are hard as hell to meet?

tell me...i haven't improved in a month?
casue this [censored] aint't budging... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
i think perhaps the regulars just marked me and stop giving loose action, but... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Wolf44]

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is it possible draw is the kind of game you are immediately good at, then dont really improve....but your higher expectations are hard as hell to meet?

tell me...i haven't improved in a month?
casue this [censored] aint't budging... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
i think perhaps the regulars just marked me and stop giving loose action, but... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


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Hi Big Limpin,

what program are you using to display your draw winrate? Is there draw tracker out?

Thanks much for your help

Wolf

[Murakawa]

people tend to be good at 5/10 but i still beat the games

[Big Limpin]

Hi wolf44,
man, i WISH there was DrawTracker. that program was www.checkyourbets.com
its decent i guess, but you have to enter your reults manually, and it can only do "per hour" stuff. Like that graph, the x-azis is hours, not hands.
Beggars cant be choosers though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Frond]

In genreal at the lower limits, I am seeing a lot less limping and Pre-draw calling overall. I always look for the short buyins though. They tend to be pretty bad normally. Like I said, I don't consider myself a great draw player, only pretty good TAG at best.