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Old 12-20-2006, 02:59 PM
JrJordan JrJordan is offline
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Default $400 - Still learning this overpair fold thing

Villain is Wyern, a very good and aggressive 30/20 regular in the PS 2/4. We don't have much history in the session leading up to this hand, stolen a few blinds and the occasional 3-bet but nothing out of line. I know he likes to squeeze lightly, but not really relevant for this hand.

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BB ($454.20)
UTG ($539.95)
MP ($631.75)
Hero ($443.20)
SB ($457)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $56</font>, Hero calls $40.

Flop: ($114) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $92</font>, Hero calls $92.

Turn: ($298) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($298) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $306.2 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $604.20
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:48 PM
treetopallin treetopallin is offline
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Default Re: $400 - Still learning this overpair fold thing

i dont know if its a good fold to tell you the truth. First of all the only time he got aggressive is when all the draws missed. unless he has a straight i dont see him having much of a hand. I dont think he has a set, because a that board is too scary to slow play a set like this. If he did have a set or two pair he is probly value bettign instead of pushing all in on the river. But it is good to know how to get off that top pair.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:53 PM
trplthrt trplthrt is offline
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Default Re: $400 - Still learning this overpair fold thing

I don't think this is a good fold here. I can't see what he could hold with this line other than J8 or air (with J8 being very unlikely even for an aggro).
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: $400 - Still learning this overpair fold thing

call this
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: $400 - Still learning this overpair fold thing

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call this

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Old 12-20-2006, 05:01 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: $400 - Still learning this overpair fold thing

I probably call this as its a button open and bb repop. I'm expecting him to have me beat a decent amount of the time though with a set/AA/KK/random 2-pair/straight. It's air enough to call though.
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: $400 - Still learning this overpair fold thing

It seems like consensus is to call this, and I agree with that. I feel like he'll have JJ/Tx/bluff 1/3 of the time. That being the case, if we're calling a blank river, what are we doing on the turn if he pushes, which is essentially pot?
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: $400 - Still learning this overpair fold thing

Unless he is crazy aggro, I think we muck more than call.
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: $400 - Still learning this overpair fold thing

Wyvern is capable of bluffing here but most tight villians are showing up with set AA/KK.
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Old 12-20-2006, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: $400 - Still learning this overpair fold thing

I don't think I call this flop bet without the intentions of getting it in a blank. Stack sizes make this fold very ackward. Because of this I am not above 4 betting preflop.
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