stacking off with qq??

fringsrache · #1 08-10-2007, 06:28 AM

villain here is running about 33/11/1 (turn agg 3) and is not very good but also not really bad. he take all lot of flops hopin' to flop big hands and c/f most of the time.

i dont really have an idea about his 3bet-calling-range but i guess is generally high.

villain is def not the typ of player who stacks of easily or plays wild or anything.

Blinds: $2/$4
5 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $875.70
CO: $112.10
Button: $383.40
HERO: $422.00
BB: $435.00

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, Button raises to $15, HERO raises to $45, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($94, 2 players)
HERO bets $70, Button calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($234, 2 players)
HERO checks, Button bets $120, HERO???

fees · #2 08-10-2007, 06:29 AM

I mean the only reason to check here is to c/r so yeah obv raise.. I think I just bet this turn though.

fringsrache · #3 08-10-2007, 09:21 AM

someone else maybe? is stacking off here standard?

thedustbustr · #4 08-10-2007, 09:24 AM

bet turn to control the remaining stack size so you can cf river. this is a lot easier if you bet 60 on the flop.

fringsrache · #5 08-10-2007, 09:27 AM

how much do u bet on the turn then?

thedustbustr · #6 08-10-2007, 09:36 AM

383 behind

flop (94, 338 behind): bet 60
turn (214, 278 behind): bet 100
river(414, 178 behind) you can probably check fold here getting 3.3:1 to a shove

it would be even better if you raised to 40 preflop.
flop (84, 343): 50
turn (184, 293): 90
river (364, 203): can def check/fold. 2.8:1

its not as good of an argument here as I thought it would be but it helps to think about this during the hand.

DaCooler · #7 08-10-2007, 09:39 AM

I really dont think im folding against a 33/11 here... AJ is a possibility, almost EVERYONE is raising this flop with AA or KK so im thinking worst case he has JJJ, his turn bet either screams monster or else "i want to get to cheap showdown" I think i just call the turn bet and check river and decide there...

Yeti · #8 08-10-2007, 10:03 AM

wtf hes 33/11 just bet bet bet and happily go broke

Trix · #9 08-10-2007, 10:03 AM

you kidding right?

FireStorm · #10 08-10-2007, 10:34 AM

I really don't see folding here, if he has J's full, so be it. I'm going the distance with QQ.