At what point can you sit out and finnish ITM?

[thomasperfecto]

I was just wondering if anyone had an idea of how to work this out? I'm mainly thinking about the Stars speed games.

[GBP04]

if your competition is any good at all, pretty much never.

[canvasbck]

one of the most important things I have learned on here.......NEVER coast into the money, it is -$EV

[Oxy]

dont' do this

Pretty much never. I've gone from chip leader to out near the bubble a couple times in satellites. Near the end people all stall hoping someone else goes out first. The side effect is that the blinds escalate INCREDIBLY fast relative to hands played. Within a couple orbits you can find you're in danger again...then one bad hand and it's all over.

You've got to keep being aggressive and pick on people trying to coast in. Pick on those mid-level stacks who are afraid to bubble out. Don't pick on the small stacks, they want to double up. And obviously, don't pick on the monster stacks that can swat you like a fly.

[thomasperfecto]

Thanks for the replies. It wasn't really a strategy I was seriously considering but I just wondered as I often see poeple sitting out when it gets to 4 players or so.
There are definately times where I would have done better by sitting out though!

[BvlyHls90210]

The Party ministeps $6 level, where the top 5 at least get their money back in the form of another freeroll, you can fold into the money most of the time without playing a single hand. Try it, it is fun (not really).

[johnnybeef]

Wow, I am surprised at all of the awful advice in this thread. I play in probably 10 sngs a day in which I slow down on the bubble hoping to cash. While this virturally never happens when I have the big stack, there are a ton of times that the stack positions and sizes dictate that you throw away a hand that you would normally shove under slightly different circumstance. In short, deue to the payout structure in sngs (and more importantly the huge jump between 4th and 3rd) there are many times in which playing to cash is the best strategy. While these situations may not be extremely obvious at first, start paying visceral attention to the stack sizes and positions and with time, it will become second nature.

[EscapePlan9]

I generally am playing for first. There's some circumstances where I'd play very cautiously still. Like say with these stacks:

150/300 blinds
6000
5000
500
1500 (hero)

For the most part, I'm still doing the +EV pushes on the bubble.

[costanza_g]

I usually sit out on the bubble after party's server disconnects me.