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Old 11-10-2007, 01:03 AM
Etats360 Etats360 is offline
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Default Whoops, we\'re 200BB deep?

Villain this hand is weak tite, who i had running 20/19/5 over a small sample. I have made a small 4-bet on him once earlier this session, and he folded. We played two 3-bet pots-

1)He 3bet my button open from SB with 99, then he c/c a Qxx flop, and we checked it down to showdown (I showed J8s)

2)A TAG opened on button, he 3bet from SB with KQo, I CC from BB w/99, button folded. We checked through a Kxx flop, I called his bet on the blank turn, and checked down river.

When I made the small 4bet here I was planning on calling a shove, but I forgot we were 200BB deep. My hand looks pretty face up the way I played the hand, right? FWIW, His PF call was not instant, but it was relatively quick. His flop check behind was instant. He thought for a while before making the turn and river bets. Also, I checked the flop and turn pretty quickly.

EZ fold?

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $708.50
UTG: $210.10
MP: $140.50
Hero (CO): $864.45
BTN: $875.30
SB: $72.10

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $52</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $124</font>, BTN calls $72

Flop: ($254) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($254) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $190</font>, Hero calls $190

River: ($634) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $380</font>,
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:13 AM
DanielDayLewis DanielDayLewis is offline
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Default Re: Whoops, we\'re 200BB deep?

4 bet is awful. Like really bad calling a shove is worse. Call river i guess.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: Whoops, we\'re 200BB deep?

20/19/5 is weak tight [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

just don't 4 bet AQ pf when ur this deep. pay attention to stack sizes before you do anything else, it dictates how you play hands PF and postflop.

i guess just flip a coin on the river, idk really, i never get myself in this situation.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:15 AM
Etats360 Etats360 is offline
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Default Re: Whoops, we\'re 200BB deep?

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20/19/5 is weak tight [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

just don't 4 bet AQ pf when ur this deep. pay attention to stack sizes before you do anything else, it dictates how you play hands PF and postflop.

i guess just flip a coin on the river, idk really, i never get myself in this situation.

[/ QUOTE ]
Villian's name is "Weak Tite."
I know my 4-bet was terrible, I honestly thought we were 100bb deep.
What do you think of my 4bet-call if we were 100bb deep?
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:23 AM
LucidDream LucidDream is offline
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not familiar w/ stars players...sorry

meh, 4bet/call is fine vs some but i have no idea if it's fine here. it really depends on how out of line he gets vs you w/ his 5bet shoving range. the lower his pair range becomes and if he mixes in shoving Axs and some random hands that flop well as a 5bet bluff then calling is fine.
edit: 100bb deep i mean tho
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:21 AM
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oh god i hate 4bet/call here so much
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: Whoops, we\'re 200BB deep?

Too bad you aren't 400BBs deep..........Given villain's description I call the river as played.
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:11 AM
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Default Re: Whoops, we\'re 200BB deep?

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oh god i hate 4bet/call here so much

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Old 11-10-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: Whoops, we\'re 200BB deep?

Weak tite is a bit nutty so i think i find a call here. He can definitely be calling your 4bet with a lot of hands and will be firing here with air a reasonable amount.
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