***September Low-Content Thread***

[Omaha8sPoker]

[/ QUOTE ] if majority of wins came from shortstacking/ratholing NLO8 then i'd say you got lucky.

if it came from PLO8 or deepstack NLO8, i'd say you are playing/running well.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah I'm not sure if I get that shortstacking and ratholing in higher stakes NLO8...That just doesn't seem like a long-term viable strategy to beat the game...It isn't like hold 'em where you are going to be an OVERWHELMING favorite when the money goes in...I mean since you shortstack it's probably not a stress on the bankroll, but it seems like its a high variance, low EV way to play the game...Yeah you'll have your days where you win a ton of money, hold your 60:40 edges for full pots, hold your 55:45 for whole pots, but that has to eventually even out...Seems like too much flux on the bankroll for very limited EV...

[Truthiness24]

But it works for him over time. It does seem like a high variance grind to me though.

[davebreal]

Here's to a good September:
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $449.40
UTG+1: $450.20
CO: $400
Button: $302.20
SB: $317.20
BB: $261.60

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $18</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($54, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $24</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $130</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($314, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $169.2</font>, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($652.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $652.4)


Results:
Final pot: $652.4
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed 4s Ac 2h Ah</font>
<font color="#ffffff">SB showed Qd Qc Ks Ts</font>

[davebreal]

dug this hand out from last month... of course i peel on a flushed flop, turn 2nd nuts and run into absolute nuts in crazy heads-up cooler.

classic example of reverse implied odds peel!!!

one of the craziest tables i've ever played... BB is Miami John, Prahlad Friedman was present and 3-betting huge with A35 pre-flop, "the grief" participated in the fiasco too.

i was stuck 2 buy-ins at one point but got back to even from some big hands with Prahlad.

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $554.75
Button: $1383.50
hero: $1741.55
BB: $1798.25

Pre-flop: (4 players) hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($40, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $20</font>, hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($80, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $80</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $320</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $960</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises all-in $1701.55</font>, BB calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3483.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $3483.1)


Results:
Final pot: $3483.1
<font color="#ffffff">BB showed 8s 6c 9c Ts</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hero showed Tc Js 2d 3h</font>

[D-Grief]

[ QUOTE ]
dug this hand out from last month... of course i peel on a flushed flop, turn 2nd nuts and run into absolute nuts in crazy heads-up cooler.

classic example of reverse implied odds peel!!!

one of the craziest tables i've ever played... BB is Miami John, Prahlad Friedman was present and 3-betting huge with A35 pre-flop, "the grief" participated in the fiasco too.

i was stuck 2 buy-ins at one point but got back to even from some big hands with Prahlad.

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $554.75
Button: $1383.50
hero: $1741.55
BB: $1798.25

Pre-flop: (4 players) hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($40, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $20</font>, hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($80, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $80</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $320</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $960</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises all-in $1701.55</font>, BB calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3483.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $3483.1)


Results:
Final pot: $3483.1
<font color="#ffffff">BB showed 8s 6c 9c Ts</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hero showed Tc Js 2d 3h</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

Here's another nugget from this game, a trap attempt gone wrong against Mizrachi:

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
3 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $60</font>, SB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($120, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $120</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($360, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $180</font>, Hero calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($720, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $720</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $669</font>.
Uncalled bets: $51 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $2058
<font color="#ffffff">SB showed 7d 8c 2c 8s</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero mucks 5d Ad Qd Qc</font>


I had to fold the river bet were I in a sane state of mind.

[Assani Fisher]

So [censored] horrible....

Full Tilt Poker Game #3513172297: Table Chimes - $3/$6 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 19:23:09 ET - 2007/09/09
Seat 1: maddog8 ($589.15)
Seat 2: buzznboom ($218.10), is sitting out
Seat 3: Fooge ($577.65)
Seat 4: Assani Fisher ($1,267.90)
Seat 5: HOSSSE_U ($526.30)
Seat 6: stark67 ($600), is sitting out
Seat 7: levantelo ($815.90)
Seat 8: MysticAH ($583.95)
Seat 9: THE GENIUS 115 ($506.10)
Fooge posts the small blind of $3
Assani Fisher posts the big blind of $6
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Assani Fisher [2s Ac Qh 4d]
HOSSSE_U folds
levantelo folds
MysticAH folds
MysticAH: indeed
THE GENIUS 115 raises to $18
maddog8 folds
Fooge folds
Assani Fisher calls $12
*** FLOP *** [Ts 3h 5d]
Assani Fisher checks
THE GENIUS 115 bets $30
Assani Fisher raises to $129
THE GENIUS 115 calls $99
*** TURN *** [Ts 3h 5d] [Ah]
Assani Fisher checks
THE GENIUS 115 bets $297
Assani Fisher raises to $594
THE GENIUS 115 calls $62.10, and is all in
Assani Fisher shows [2s Ac Qh 4d]
THE GENIUS 115 shows [Ad 2c 8c 6h]
Uncalled bet of $234.90 returned to Assani Fisher
*** RIVER *** [Ts 3h 5d Ah] [4h]
Assani Fisher shows a straight, Five high, for high andAssani Fisher shows 5,4,3,2,A, for low
THE GENIUS 115 shows a straight, Six high, for high andTHE GENIUS 115 shows 5,4,3,2,A, for low
THE GENIUS 115 wins the high pot ($506.10) with a straight, Six high
Assani Fisher ties for the low pot ($253.05) with 5,4,3,2,A
THE GENIUS 115 ties for the low pot ($253.05) with 5,4,3,2,A
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1,015.20 | Rake $3
Board: [Ts 3h 5d Ah 4h]
Seat 1: maddog8 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: buzznboom is sitting out
Seat 3: Fooge (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Assani Fisher (big blind) showed [2s Ac Qh 4d] and won ($253.05) with HI: a straight, Five high; LO: 5,4,3,2,A
Seat 5: HOSSSE_U didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: stark67 is sitting out
Seat 7: levantelo didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: MysticAH didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: THE GENIUS 115 showed [Ad 2c 8c 6h] and won ($759.15) with HI: a straight, Six high; LO: 5,4,3,2,A

[niss]

Wow that sucks.

I mean not using a converter. My head hurts.

OK the hand was pretty brutal too. Take solace in the fact that The Genius is a pretty big retard and you'll get it back from him one day.

[predator06]

90% of winnings were from shortstacking / ratholing NLO8.

Station...How many tables deep do you usually mine? I typically open 4 at a time, and when I double up I add the next one. Sometimes into the 8th table of NL1K pretty regularly. 3k from 25/50 too if you dont mine those.

And O8...it is high variance, but not low EV is way off.

And Dave...you know I have a horseshoe up my azz. After I posted the graph, I did end up winning 1800 on NL10k vs Matusow and Lindgren. The best part about it was after I pushed 3x in a row, Matusow asked ME..."are YOU on crack?"
HAHA

[davebreal]

post Lingren/Matusow hands+chat somewhere!

[predator06]

[ QUOTE ]
post Lingren/Matusow hands+chat somewhere!

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Just threw it on my LJ for ya bro