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Old 11-23-2007, 05:07 AM
ettorek ettorek is offline
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Default NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

Another situation when (lately) I found often myself: calling shove.

Villain here is a 48/32/2 really LAG: he played fast a lot of hand (too many) stealing often.

PF his hand range is basically a stealing range: so let's say Ax, Kx, any broadway, 89s+.
On the flop I RR what it seems to be a CB: when he just called I put him on a draw (maybe combo).
The turn give me a gutshot so basically I've only 7 outs and I really didn't want to go to a showdown.

Can you check my line?


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3.35
UTG+1: $2.85
CO: $9.55
Button: $8.75
SB: $9.45
Hero: $11.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $0.35</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($5.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $6.7</font>, Hero calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($19.15, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $19.15)


Results:
Final pot: $19.15
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:20 AM
Dr_Doctr Dr_Doctr is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

This is awful. When facing bad, spewy, lags just wait for a real hand and watch them not adjust and try to push you off it. What you're doing here is outspewing him when you should be just playing better hands than him. If you're going to try to resteal then repop him preflop instead of calling, hitting nothing, and committing your whole stack unimproved. If he won't fold to preflop resteals from the blinds then tighten your OOP 3-bet range slightly and take him to valuetown.
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

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PF his hand range is basically a stealing range: so let's say Ax, Kx, any broadway, 89s+.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


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Okay, but then:

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On the flop...I put him on a draw (maybe combo).

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This makes none sense.
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:01 AM
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Okay, but then:

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On the flop...I put him on a draw (maybe combo).

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This makes none sense.

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Why? ATs, JTs are all hands in his range.
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

wow
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

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wow

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[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] uh, where I'm wrong?
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:46 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

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Why? ATs, JTs are all hands in his range.

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So are K7, K8, K9, KT, KJ, KQ, AK, QT, QJ, AQ according to you. So that's, what? 5-1? So why are you putting him on a draw when his range is dominated by pairs here (again, if we're trusting your read)?
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

fold preflop... this is just really really really bad spew.

Once you make that C/R on the flop and are called, you need to shut down. His range tightens substantially although it may include some draws it is heavily weighted towards obvious pairs. Making the 5$ bet on the turn just gave him money.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

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What you're doing here is outspewing him when you should be just playing better hands than him.

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Outspewing is the new outplaying.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

you're really trying to tell him your hand is better and he really doesnt want to understand. just give up.
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