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Re: Fight for Online Poker!!
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I'm playing online poker right now and it works just fine. "Regulating" it - just means they get into our business more than now. I hope all these measures fail. [/ QUOTE ] And you think it will just stay that way on its own, like magic? Sorry, but that's the attitude that got us where we are today. HR 4411, the bill that became UIGEA, passed the House 317-93! In case you missed that....317-93! That sounds "just fine" to you? Sorry, but there is no sustainable status quo. We're in an unstable area that will either be filled by a ban or by some sort of legalization. If the status quo does remain, it will because of the people fighting back, not the ones doing nothing but hoping even the Wexler bill fails. If there was ever a doubt about that, UIGEA passing should have cured us of it. You're entitled to your opinion, but please at least consider why it is we're fighting back, especially before posting to discourage the effort. |
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You're entitled to your opinion, but please at least consider why it is we're fighting back, especially before posting to discourage the effort. [/ QUOTE ]What makes you think I don't understand why you are fighting? Son, BTDT and some cop stole my t-shirt. It matters not one whit what you or I say on a message board, it matters not how much or little money is thrown at this problem or how many letters of emails are written. They knew what they were gonna do to screw us before they stuck that last piece of unconstitutional blather onto the Port Security bill pushed through because of the treasonous piece of crap called the Patriot Act. Now they are just doing what they were always going to do and getting you to chant, "Thank you, Sir, may I have another!!" A bunch of people scared you by saying, "You got yer freedom now sit in the back o' the bus or do ya wanna go back ta bein' a slave, boy!?" I express my opinion and do so whether or not you agree or believe I am misinformed. And, having done that, I am done posting. But here's a little challenge. These bills you want passed? How about posting a link to them - to the FULL AND EXACT contents of each. Let's read them closely together, and see just precisely what they have stuck inside this thing that you think will be a victory if passed. Yes, everything is fine. I play poker online. And unless well-meaning and mis-guided folks such as yourself help them REGULATE me, I will always be able to do so. Never mind. They'll pass it if everyone tries to stop them. Sorry. |
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Re: Fight for Online Poker!!
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[ QUOTE ] You're entitled to your opinion, but please at least consider why it is we're fighting back, especially before posting to discourage the effort. [/ QUOTE ]What makes you think I don't understand why you are fighting? Son, BTDT and some cop stole my t-shirt. It matters not one whit what you or I say on a message board, it matters not how much or little money is thrown at this problem or how many letters of emails are written. They knew what they were gonna do to screw us before they stuck that last piece of unconstitutional blather onto the Port Security bill pushed through because of the treasonous piece of crap called the Patriot Act. Now they are just doing what they were always going to do and getting you to chant, "Thank you, Sir, may I have another!!" A bunch of people scared you by saying, "You got yer freedom now sit in the back o' the bus or do ya wanna go back ta bein' a slave, boy!?" I express my opinion and do so whether or not you agree or believe I am misinformed. And, having done that, I am done posting. But here's a little challenge. These bills you want passed? How about posting a link to them - to the FULL AND EXACT contents of each. Let's read them closely together, and see just precisely what they have stuck inside this thing that you think will be a victory if passed. Yes, everything is fine. I play poker online. And unless well-meaning and mis-guided folks such as yourself help them REGULATE me, I will always be able to do so. Never mind. They'll pass it if everyone tries to stop them. Sorry. [/ QUOTE ] have you read it? it is easy enough to find. I have not, and don't plan on it. If you can point me to some reason why I shouldn't support it, I would certainly listen. I am guessing the answer is no though. It is tough to argue that games and game selection is as good as it was a year ago though. I don't see how doing nothing is going to pan out as a viable long term solution. |
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Re: Fight for Online Poker!!
I wasn't going to post here again, but it was pointed out to me that someone might have taken offense at the "bus" reference. If so, I apologize, it was meant analogously, not personally.
[ QUOTE ] have you read it? it is easy enough to find. I have not, and don't plan on it. [/ QUOTE ]If it is so easy to find, why did you not post a link? And you haven't read it? So, you are here stumping for everyone to push to have a bill passed and you have no idea what it is you want us to support? Or what you are supporting yourself? Look, I don't want to be all contentious but seriously, if you don't know what it says, how do you know you want it passed? [ QUOTE ] It is tough to argue that games and game selection is as good as it was a year ago though. I don't see how doing nothing is going to pan out as a viable long term solution. [/ QUOTE ]I honestly don't know what you are talking about. I find more games and more players at more limits than ever. My money moves around just fine. What is it you are trying to solve? |
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Re: Fight for Online Poker!!
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I wasn't going to post here again, but it was pointed out to me that someone might have taken offense at the "bus" reference. If so, I apologize, it was meant analogously, not personally. [ QUOTE ] have you read it? it is easy enough to find. I have not, and don't plan on it. [/ QUOTE ]If it is so easy to find, why did you not post a link? And you haven't read it? So, you are here stumping for everyone to push to have a bill passed and you have no idea what it is you want us to support? Or what you are supporting yourself? Look, I don't want to be all contentious but seriously, if you don't know what it says, how do you know you want it passed? [ QUOTE ] It is tough to argue that games and game selection is as good as it was a year ago though. I don't see how doing nothing is going to pan out as a viable long term solution. [/ QUOTE ]I honestly don't know what you are talking about. I find more games and more players at more limits than ever. My money moves around just fine. What is it you are trying to solve? [/ QUOTE ] I am simply not willing to take the time to read a bunch of draft regs. However, we have advocates on our behalf, including the PPA and people like Engineer that seem to think it is a good idea. What makes you think it isn't? Go to house.gov and pull a copy of it and let me know why your head in the sand approach is best. I was never stumping for it, just going with the general consensus of players that this is something we want. You have not stated one reason why I should not be for it. Edit: 10 second search of the legislation forum found this link - http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/hp583.htm My money moves around great through the 5 tables (above 1/2) going on Full Tilt that have the same relatively small batch of players there every day. It doesn't move around to party or crypto sites or paradise, or any of the sites where we are currently banned from playing. Game selection is probably 20% of what it was. There are rarely any new faces on a day-to-day basis and that number will dwindle even further if banks start tightening up controls on transactions. |
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