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Old 11-10-2007, 01:32 AM
metsandfinsfan metsandfinsfan is offline
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Default Re: MLB- The sh!t is about to hit the fan.

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I don't think Andy Pettite is on steriods. Hes 35 yrs old, its not like hes 42, I don't understand what hes done to have multiple people be suspicious of him.


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Fun fact:

Number of MLB players who have testified under oath that Bonds took steroids: 0
Number of MLB players who have testified under oath that Pettite took steroids: 1

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who said pettite?

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Jason Grimsley.

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ok i forgot all about that
he said clemens pettite and tejada iirc.
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: MLB- The sh!t is about to hit the fan.

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I don't think Andy Pettite is on steriods. Hes 35 yrs old, its not like hes 42, I don't understand what hes done to have multiple people be suspicious of him.


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Fun fact:

Number of people who have testified or who have went to jail instead of testifying under oath that Bonds took steroids: at least 4 (including Bonds himself), probably more.

Number of MLB players signing affidativits claiming that Pettite took steroids to save his own butt: 1

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FYP

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It's a myth that Bonds admitted taking steroids in his testimony, that has been well discussed.

Additionally, Greg testified under oath previously that he did NOT give steroids to Bonds, and Conte is on record as testifying that he gave steroids to Marion Jones, but not Barry Bonds.

But don't let those facts get in the way of your assumptions. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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WRONG!

(1) Kimberley Bell testified that Bonds told her that he was using steroids.

(2) Conte may not have told the grand jury himself, but he certainly told another athlete that testified who saw the steroids at balco.

(3) Gary Sheffiled testified he took the Clear and Cream at Bonds direction.

(4) Bonds testified to using these substances too. The fact that Sheffield and Bonds claimed to not know what was in them does not change the fact that they were steroids.

And there are the recordings of Anderson acknowledging that Bonds was taking an undetectable performance-enhancing drug

And Anderson's written records show that Bonds was taking these substances.

And Jim Valente told government agents that Bonds came to BALCO looking for undetectable perfomance-enhancing drugs. Conte said the same thing (although later backed away from these first statements -- original statements ring far truer).

Bonds may claim he didn't know what he was taking... and you can believe him. No one else who is at all impartial does.

I will leave it there and ignore the Beanster from here on because I know he will try to twist and turn his way out of it. There are far more interesting matters to debate. This matter is closed to any sane person.

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This post is terrible. Its like you haven't been reading this forum for a year.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:35 AM
rwperu34 rwperu34 is offline
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I've seen the list

Ford Frick
Bill James
Ronan Tynan
Tommy Lasorda
Roy Hobbs
Napoleon Lajoie
Van Lingle Mungo
Yakima Canutt

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Old 11-10-2007, 05:08 AM
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I guess you missed Clark's post about keeping this thread on topic instead of derailing it by arguing about the big man.

I replied to you in the thread designated, in order to keep this one on-topic.

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Old 11-10-2007, 01:13 PM
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I guess you missed Clark's post about keeping this thread on topic instead of derailing it by arguing about the big man.

I replied to you in the thread designated, in order to keep this one on-topic.

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I don't read that thread because it's a snoozefest with your twists and turns... You brought it up here so I answered it here. But I won't discuss it here either.

Lots of guys used the Crap. Bonds used the Crap. Sheff used the Crap. Giambi used the Crap. My guess is the Mitchell report ends up being sanitized before it is released and maybe that is for the best.

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Old 11-10-2007, 05:54 PM
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I don't read that thread because it's a snoozefest with your twists and turns... You brought it up here so I answered it here. But I won't discuss it here either.Lots of guys used the Crap.

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In your opinion, but certainly not a fact. And it's probably best you don't discuss it here nor read the other thread, because the only "crap" here is that which you're full of....

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