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Old 11-30-2007, 05:04 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS

Flop was pretty meh, I'd have folded to any more. As for the river I just couldn't help myself. What you say?


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Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t60</font>, Hero calls t60, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t60, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t210) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets t120</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>

Turn: (t450) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (t450) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets t40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t320</font>
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS

As played, raising the river seems like an interesting idea given the board and villain's weak bet, but it's pretty marginal. I'm usually folding the flop to avoid situations like this early on.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS

If you think he can fold, then it's ok. Flop peel is pretty gross I think.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS

I raise preflop to not have a zillion limpers, be able to cbet against 1 opponent with respect and win a bigger pot if we hit.
On the flop pot is 210+120=330. We have to win 120/(330+120) * 100= 26.66%. We have (very likely) 4 Queens, 3 Aces, 3 Kings as outs = 10 outs = 20%. Add some implied odds and being ahead some of the time I think calling is ok.
I just call river, but I don't think it's bad.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS

I've started raising over donk bets HU fairly often and it works more often than not. I like the raise.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:02 PM
JacJacAtk JacJacAtk is offline
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Default Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS

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I raise preflop to not have a zillion limpers, be able to cbet against 1 opponent with respect and win a bigger pot if we hit.
On the flop pot is 210+120=330. We have to win 120/(330+120) * 100= 26.66%. We have (very likely) 4 Queens, 3 Aces, 3 Kings as outs = 10 outs = 20%. Add some implied odds and being ahead some of the time I think calling is ok.
I just call river, but I don't think it's bad.

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You really think the K and Q of hearts are outs on the flop? The A, maybe, but the K and Q are quite dirty.

And calling the river seems like a really bad idea. What are you ever ahead of?
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:55 PM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Default Re: $16: Flop spew feat. river FPS

He only has to be bluffing 1 times in 11 or so.
But folding river is okay/better maybe.
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