can california seriously get any gayer?

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EDIT: wait, i'm confused. you're saying the dems WILL lose if hillary/obama is the nominee?

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Yes.

The repubs have pissed enough people off, even their own, that if the two candidates are even somewhat vanilla (middle of the road bland), the Dems will easily win.

But if the Dems elect a woman, or a minority with the name Obama as their candiate, they will still lose.

And no, I am not a chauvinist or racist, but too much of the country still is.