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Old 11-04-2007, 12:48 PM
All_In_Olly All_In_Olly is offline
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Default PS 4/180 - Bet river for value?

Early in 4/180 and no reads on villain.

Comments on all streets welcome.

Is pre flop call very bad?
I don't usually call a raise pre flop with Axs but did this time because of the caller and my position.

On turn obv calling is fine because of immediate odds, do you raise even though he's shown interest on the flop?

Main reason for posting is river decision - is a raise standard?
If so how much?
And do you fold to a raise?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t60)
UTG+1 (t3600)
MP1 (t1220)
MP2 (t1130)
MP3 (t1470)
CO (t1450)
Hero (t1610)
SB (t1460)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t60</font>, UTG+1 calls t60, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t60, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t250) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t139</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t139.

Turn: (t528) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t100</font>, Hero calls t100.

River: (t728) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t60</font>, Hero ?
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:10 PM
Steroid Boy Steroid Boy is offline
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Default Re: PS 4/180 - Bet river for value?

the tiny river bet is a either a blocking bet scared of the flush or a made flush. id weight it towards the flush b/c of the weak turn bet which he shows he wanted to get to river cheaply. now he got there he wants to bet weakly to entice a raise. You have showdown value so just call. oh and its a 4/180 so there will be plenty of opportunity to get value later
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: PS 4/180 - Bet river for value?

i raise out of spite
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Old 11-04-2007, 04:04 PM
scottywhen333 scottywhen333 is offline
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Default Re: PS 4/180 - Bet river for value?

definite call. this looks an awful lot like a turned straight, and all worse hands SHOULD fold to your river raise here... = no value in raising.
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Old 11-04-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: PS 4/180 - Bet river for value?

i'm missing UTG on the flop?

calling preflop isn't bad that deep, but you have to be careful.

If it is checked to you on the flop with TPTK (though a very low TP) i'd bet more about 200 against 3 opponents.

Call on turn is fine. I'd just call the river. The only hands that might call a raise are AK, AQ - both very unlikely from the action so far or weaker two pairs A3, A7 unlikely.
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