Sooo

jcmoussa · #1 05-15-2007, 11:29 AM

Ok let me have it. I wish i had led the flop to make this easier to play. Also reason for not raising flop is because i was almost positive preflop reraiser would fold on the flop. Also what does everyone put the limper on?

Edit: Also villain is runawayt

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $50 BB (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

SB ($7785)
BB ($2363)
UTG ($2475)
UTG+1 ($1064)
MP1 ($9288)
Hero ($14737)
MP3 ($12948.75)
CO ($7291)
Button ($1000)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls $50, Hero raises to $200, MP3 raises to $600, 4 folds, MP1 calls $550, Hero calls $400.

Flop: ($1875) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets $888, MP1 calls $888, Hero calls $888.

Turn: ($4539) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets $2000, MP1 raises to $7800, Hero ?????

Orlando Salazar · #2 05-15-2007, 11:32 AM

Someone turned a combo draw. Shove.

Flatlanman3 · #3 05-15-2007, 11:40 AM

Im extremely worried about MP1's line... if you think that he could have a set often enough to make this laydown, now is the spot to do it when you are 200-300 bb deep. As for Mp3's line, I also am kind of worried but not as much. If he reraised preflop with say AK/QQ+, I would think with 2 callers he would have slowed down on the turn and not fired a 2nd barrelunless he turned a nut flush draw or something. Personally I would lean towards shove but I think a great player could make this laydown once in a while and be right

MDMA · #4 05-15-2007, 12:05 PM

Urgh, I think I would let this go...and I would probably place him exactly at 88 (given TT is way less likely PF of course)...I think it's just wishful thinking putting him on J9/79ss, both because he limp-coldcalled a 3-bet which makes it very unlikely, and that you actually overcalled on the flop, making me think he would be way more likely to just call the turnbet since he should be really afraid of you overcalling, AND the fact that PFRR did bet on turn again. Trying to move you both off overpais with J9ss seems quite unlikely to me. T8 should also be very unlikely given PF. I'd be surprised if I saw anything else than 88 here ever, although I don't know villain particularly well at all. I guess it's possible once every blue moon that he cold-called a 3-bet after limping pre "thinking of implied odds" (this would require that he is quite bad however imo), and that you will fold the best hand because of that, but it's simply not reason enough for me to get it in. Same would go for a limped AA as well (that opted to just cold-call), but I don't know, I just don't think it's likely enough to make this a call.

EmpireMaker2 · #5 05-15-2007, 02:47 PM

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Someone turned a combo draw. Shove.

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LOL

durrrr · #6 05-15-2007, 12:24 PM

please... whatever you do... dont click the button on the left

cts · #7 05-15-2007, 12:35 PM

no way i fold, ive seen this guy do some dumb stuff too

MDMA · #8 05-15-2007, 12:42 PM

Apparently the villain in question was of quite some importance and I'm wrong, I was mainly argueing against a tight reasonable player :P

johnnyrocket · #9 05-15-2007, 12:48 PM

he cant have 1010 cuz he would have raised coming in the pot preflop, all the other sets, 88 and 44 arent feasible, why would he call a raise and reraise preflop, he might have AA or a huge draw here, no way ur beat

HERO GOES ALL IN BABY

also durrrr said dont fold so this has to be right

MychCumstien · #10 05-15-2007, 12:57 PM

MP1 is probably sitting on AK [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], or some other similar draw, good enough to call preflop, good enough to float a c-bet on the flop and good enough to shove the turn. JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] maybe?. MP3 probably is sitting on an overpair. I agree with you though, I'm more worried about MP1 than MP3. Still, with no completed straight or flush on the board, I can't see folding here. It's hard to put him on TT. 44 is also very unlikely. There are many draws MP3 can have here, and I'm only really worried about 88. I can't fold here. I shove... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]