Fuper hand w/ Erick Lindgren

[luckychewy]

i like pf. now i'd bet 7350 cause there is certainly a ton of value to be found here in a 4 way pot when u are betting in the last position. i don't think it's inconceivable to get bluff raised sometimes and i doubt you fold out ax/lower fd's for one bet. just bet and be happy to get it in.

[Rekwob]

how close is this to the bubble? lindgren might c/r all in for the fun of it if you bet 6-7k ish

[NoahSD]

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stacks look awesome for a 3bet here to 10k you have a PSB left for the flop

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Yeah.. but we don't see a flop that often when we 3-bet... we either get 4-bet on (in which case leaving yourself with a PSB and a hand that's probably crushed by a 4-betting range sucks) or they fold (which is obv awesome).

I think it's a huge leak if you think these are good stacks for 3-betting.. These are like the exact stacks that suck balls for 3-betting.

Flop I like 7k/call a shove.

[Todd Terry]

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I think it's a huge leak if you think these are good stacks for 3-betting.. These are like the exact stacks that suck balls for 3-betting.

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Count me among those that have a huge leak, then. You're reraising for 1/3 of your stack. Because it's that much of your stack, they can't call, they have to raise and put you all in or fold. Thus, they have to risk 30K against the 10K you risked. It's the best possible stack for 3-betting, you can effectively move all-in without actually moving all-in.

[mikeJ]

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I just doubled a few hands back vs. Erick when I had a bigger flush draw vs. his flush draw in a limped pot. I was on shortstack until then. Not much info on PFR, and I haven't seen Erick coldcalling that much.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3186407895: $55,000 Guarantee (24002603), Table 17 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:40:32 ET - 2007/08/07
dimathegrinder (Observer): ?
Seat 1: TommyDukes (18,728)
Seat 2: BKiCe (11,368)
Seat 3: ginter (13,807)
Seat 4: Whipsaw3 (30,075)
Seat 5: Jimmy3times (8,826)
Seat 6: UbsoLute (62,275)
Seat 7: Erick Lindgren (53,096)
Seat 8: HolezLikeSwiss (22,332)
Seat 9: yoren8 (29,650)
TommyDukes antes 125
BKiCe antes 125
ginter antes 125
Whipsaw3 antes 125
Jimmy3times antes 125
UbsoLute antes 125
Erick Lindgren antes 125
HolezLikeSwiss antes 125
yoren8 antes 125
ginter posts the small blind of 500
Whipsaw3 posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yoren8 [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Jimmy3times folds
UbsoLute has 15 seconds left to act
UbsoLute raises to 2,500
Erick Lindgren calls 2,500
HolezLikeSwiss folds
yoren8 ?


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yoren8 calls 2,500 (<font color="blue">I ended up calling and feel that this is optimal, if I had say 25k, I'd flip a coin between jamming and calling, and I'd def just move AI if I had 20k</font>)
TommyDukes folds
BKiCe folds
ginter calls 2,000
Whipsaw3 folds
*** FLOP *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] (Pot = 12125)
ginter checks
UbsoLute checks
Erick Lindgren checks
yoren8 ?


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yoren8 bets 5,000 (<font color="blue">Alright, so I bet 5k, a bit smaller than what the majority feels is the right bet size. I was trying to induce a c/r or get a loose call from a jack</font>)
ginter folds
UbsoLute folds
Erick Lindgren calls 5,000
*** TURN *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] (Pot = 22125)
Erick Lindgren checks
yoren8 has 15 seconds left to act
yoren8 checks
*** RIVER *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] (Pot = 22125)
Erick Lindgren bets 16,000
yoren8 has 15 seconds left to act
yoren8 has requested TIME
yoren8 ?

I think turn is an easy check, but feel free to comment on it. Your move on river? Assign Erick a river betting range.

[Bond18]

I like call pre flop. Flop i bet/call 7k

[ZJ123]

call river.

[mikeJ]

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how close is this to the bubble? lindgren might c/r all in for the fun of it if you bet 6-7k ish

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Bubble burst already, probably 40 players or so left.

[Todd Terry]

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Your move on river? Assign Erick a river betting range.

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He could have absolutely anything, you bet less than 1/2 the pot on a board with a flush draw and 2 high cards when 3 people checked to you on the flop, then checked behind on the turn, you look weak to him. I think anyone who thinks he can put Erick on any type of range here at all is kidding himself. Call.

[topherh82]

I personally dont like the flop bet size and the turn check. As stated i bet more on the flop, and the turn I think I continue to take the lead. What range are you putting him on that you check the turn? He shows up with a 6 here next to never, and only two Ax combos have you beat. By checking the turn you are leaving yourself a hard river decision. Get it in on turn