200/400 NL - Overbet = Nuts?

[spivey]

Rate these bluffs:

First against NicholasJ, second against an unknown:

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HAND #1
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Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $304
SB: $149.80
BB: $81.50
UTG: $261.35
MP: $477.35
CO: $244.20

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero calls $7, SB calls $6, BB folds

Flop: ($23) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, UTG bets $18, Hero calls $18, SB folds

Turn: ($59) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $40, UTG calls $40

River: ($139) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $239 and is All-In




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HAND #2
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Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $125
CO: $400
BTN: $463
SB: $676.50
Hero (BB): $400
UTG: $865

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, BTN raises to $14, SB folds, Hero raises to $44, BTN calls $30

Flop: ($90) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $60, BTN calls $60

Turn: ($210) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $296 and is All-In

[spivey]

I have played a few hundred hands with NicholasJ, no history.

[freedom18]

dont like any of this unless u do it with the nuts aswell.

majority of the time you arent betting a FH like this etc especially hand 2

[spivey]

They don't know if I do this with the nuts or trips in the first hand, something like AK/AA/KK in the second. I'd rather not say if I do.

[FishSticks]

Well in hand 2 the overbet facet of the hand doesn't really matter that much, since most bets you make are committing you. If you just potted it and left yourself 80 back it wouldn't make a ton of sense. This seems kind of dicey against a total unknown to me, but maybe I'm being nitty.

In hand 1 I don't really know your opponent, so I don't have great insight - but I wouldn't expect him to c/c the turn to c/f the river on a blank given the board and action, etc. I don't know, though - maybe the overbet will freak him out.

[spivey]

Hand 2 I think the turn a great card to do this. Obv because of equity but also because of how it doesn't help his range/helps what I'm repping. Agree/disagree?

[jono]

hand 1 no

hand 2 bet bigger flop so you have closer to pot on turn. Villian dependent also.

[billybeartku]

i give you 0 out of 10 for both [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[spivey]

Hand 1 I'm not bluffing twice the pot size.

[BombayBadboy]

In hand 1 you represent 66 only. Like Bilbo said, no way you should check behind here with AQ, but he is not gonna belive you v-bet it this hard.

I don't like hand 2 that much. He is not folding an A, and he might just have made a set with KK.