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Old 02-27-2007, 12:10 PM
Montezuma21 Montezuma21 is offline
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Default QQ as an overpair

maybe very standard. if so i apologise. just wondering if there's any room for debate.

villain is a realative newcomer at the table but seems to see at least 50% of all flops.

Full Tilt Poker
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BTN: $31.40
SB: $24.65
BB: $24.9
UTG: $27.60
Hero (MP): $41.65
CO: $23.30

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.35, 6 players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1, SB folds, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.35, 3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: QQ as an overpair

Go for broke.
Villain will pay you off with 4x, [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img][img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 55+...
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:16 PM
PietM PietM is offline
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Default Re: QQ as an overpair

Could be a flushdraw or a four. Ofcourse villain could have a 2, but that won't always be the case.

You're pretty deep. I think I would call this and evaluate the turn. Maybe check/call turn + river if no club comes out, and the bets are reasonable?

I don't think I would want to go broke here, am I right?
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: QQ as an overpair

I raise here again. Very easily button could have A high and put you on a C-Bet only. Also quite often people in position bet their draws. They do this hoping you just smooth call, then check the turn, that way if they miss they get a "free" card. I definitely re-raise villain here. Raise it to 15 or so and see from there what happens. If he is as loose as you say, a 2 may be very possible, and that re-raise you throw will get to see what he has. I also see the villain holding cards like 77-99 here.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:20 PM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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Default Re: QQ as an overpair

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Could be a flushdraw or a four. Ofcourse villain could have a 2, but that won't always be the case.

You're pretty deep. I think I would call this and evaluate the turn. Maybe check/call turn + river if no club comes out, and the bets are reasonable?

I don't think I would want to go broke here, am I right?

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I think you are wrong.
Felt this right here.
Sooooo many hands a donkish villain will pay off with here.
And I dont consider 120bbs to be deep at all.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:22 PM
Montezuma21 Montezuma21 is offline
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Default Re: QQ as an overpair

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Raise it to 15 or so and see from there what happens. If he is as loose as you say, a 2 may be very possible, and that re-raise you throw will get to see what he has.

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are you suggesting we fold or call here after villain pushes over our raise?
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:24 PM
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Raise it to 15 or so and see from there what happens. If he is as loose as you say, a 2 may be very possible, and that re-raise you throw will get to see what he has.

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Raising and folding to a push is pretty bad IMO.
If we raise to 15 and villain pushes, it will only be like 9 more to us in a 62 pot.

Nit edit: 63.8 pot
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