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Old 07-10-2006, 06:09 PM
rawl316 rawl316 is offline
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short david benjamin. lol
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Old 07-10-2006, 06:29 PM
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SKLANSKY at 80-1???

should probably be more like even money!
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Old 07-10-2006, 10:19 PM
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ME bet is horrible, the HORSE bet..depends on the player list.
If its got Phil Ivey, DN and David Benyamine on it I'd take it.

I've heard 150-250 being thrown around on entry figures.

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You're confused.
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Old 07-10-2006, 11:25 PM
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Todd Brunson who could be another entrant is a LHE HU specialist.

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lol

Definetaly not

Just because he played heads up Vs some fish, doesn't mean he's a "LHE HU specialist".
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:10 AM
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Todd Brunson who could be another entrant is a LHE HU specialist.

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lol

Definetaly not

Just because he played heads up Vs some fish, doesn't mean he's a "LHE HU specialist".

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What event did he win a bracelet in? Omaha 8/B

What game did he write an excellent chapter in Super System 2 about? Stud 8/B

How many large buy-in hold 'em tournaments has he won? Four.

Obviously he's just a "LHE HU specialist".
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:06 AM
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ME bet is horrible, the HORSE bet..depends on the player list.
If its got Phil Ivey, DN and David Benyamine on it I'd take it.

I've heard 150-250 being thrown around on entry figures.

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Here's the HORSE list:


PHIL IVEY 16-1
JENNIFER HARMAN 20-1
BARRY GREENSTEIN 20-1
DOYLE BRUNSON 20-1
DANIEL NEGREANU 22-1
DAVID BENJAMIN 24-1
TED FORREST 24-1
CHIP REESE 24-1
CHRIS FERGUSON 28-1
ERIC LINDGREN 28-1
JOHNNY CHAN 30-1
JOHN JUANDA 30-1
TODD BRUNSON 30-1
CHAU GIANG 30-1
ERIK SEIDEL 30-1
ALLEN CUNNINGHAM 33-1
MIKE MATUSAW 33-1
HOWARD LEDERER 35-1
JEFFREY LISANDRO 35-1
MINH LY 35-1
ELI ELEZRA 40-1
TUAN LE 40-1
MEN NGUYEN 45-1
GUS HANSEN 45-1
SHAHRAM SHEIKHAN 45-1
MICHAEL MIZRACHI 50-1
PATRIK ANTONIUS 50-1
SCOTTY NGUYEN 50-1
PHIL HELLMUTH 50-1
MAX PESCATORI 50-1
MIMI TRAN 50-1
SCOTT FISCHMAN 50-1
LEE SALEM 50-1
MARCEL LUSKE 50-1
AMIR VAHEDI 55-1
BILLY GAZES 55-1
ROBERT WILLIAMSON III 55-1
MICHAEL MIZRACHI 55-1
CARLOS MORTENSEN 55-1
DAVID WILLIAMS 55-1
HARRY DEMETRIOU 55-1
ANDREW BLOCH 55-1
MIKE CARO 55-1
ANNIE DUKE 55-1
DAVID GREY 55-1
T.J. CLOUTIER 60-1
HUCK SEED 60-1
PHIL GORDON 60-1
CHAD BROWN 60-1
JAMES VAN ALSTYNE 66-1
DAVE "DEVILFISH" ULLIOT 66-1
MARK SEIF 66-1
STEVE ZOLOTOW 66-1
ALLEN KESSLER 66-1
MIKE SEXTON 80-1
BARRY SHULMAN 80-1
FREDDY DEEB 80-1
DAVID SKLANSKY 80-1
FIELD (ALL OTHERS) 5-2

Keep in mind that some of the listed players may not even play.

If we take your assumption that 150-200 entrants are likely, then I love the field bet at 5 to 2 (+250).

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Man, WSEX just robs people



World Series Of Poker: 2006 World Series Of Poker 50K H.O.R.S.E
Thu 8/10 2006 WSOP 50K H.O.R.S.E Outright Winner (ALL IN)
12:00 PM 101 Phil Ivey +3100
102 Jennifer Harman +5300
103 Barry Greenstein +5000
104 Doyle Brunson +5400
105 Daniel Negreanu +4800
106 David Benjamin +4600
107 Ted Forrest +5000
108 Chip Reese +4900
109 Chris Ferguson +5000
110 Eric Lindgren +5000
111 Johnny Chan +4600
112 John Juanda +5000
113 Todd Brunson +5300
114 Chau Giang +5300
115 Erik Seidel +5000
116 Allen Cunningham +5600
117 Mike Matusow +7700
118 Howard Lederer +6000
119 Jeffrey Lisandro +6400
120 Minh Ly +6000
121 Eli Elezra +6600
122 Tuan Le +6000
123 Men Nguyen +5500
124 Gus Hansen +7000
125 Shahram Sheikhan +7400
126 Michael Mizrachi +7000
127 Patrik Antonius +6950
128 Scotty Nguyen +7100
129 Phil Hellmuth +5000
130 Max Pescatori +6900
131 Mimi Tran +7900
132 Scott Fischman +6900
133 Lee Salem +8000
134 Marcel Luske +6950
135 Amir Vahedi +7700
136 Billy Gazes +7300
137 Robert Williamson III +7700
138 Carlos Mortensen +7700
139 David Williams +7500
140 Harry Demetriou +9500
141 Andrew Bloch +8500
142 Mike Caro +8200
143 Annie Duke +8200
144 David Grey +8200
145 T.J. Cloutier +7500
146 Huck Seed +6000
147 Phil Gordon +8500
148 Chad Brown +8400
149 James Van Alstyne +7400
150 Dave "Devilfish" Ulliot +7600
151 Mark Seif +7400
152 Steve Zolotow +9100
153 Allen Kessler +9600
154 Mike Sexton +7300
155 Barry Shulman +7600
156 Freddy Deeb +7500
157 David Sklansky +6600
158 Layne Flack +7500
159 Joseph Hachem +8600
160 Greg Raymer +8500
161 Phil Laak +8500
162 John D'Agostino +6300
163 Sam Farha +8500
164 Billy Baxter +8500
165 Alan Boston +6800
166 Jean-Robert Bellande +9500
167 Russ Hamilton +10000
168 Prahlad Friedman +7300
169 Blair Rodman +7200
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:11 AM
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Man, WSEX just robs people


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It looks like you got your list from Pinnacle. This list (on Pinnacle) was not there last night, but I did see it this morning.

However, the Pinnacle list does not have the all important "field" option. Betting on any individual player is certainly negative EV anyway, but you are right that it is less negative if you use Pinnacle.
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:12 AM
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The WSEX Main Event list now has 330 players listed. Last night it was 310.

I have wrote to them for clarification as to just what the hell they think they are doing.
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:43 AM
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http://www.pokulator.com/ten-questio...d-brunson.html

I think the "HU LHE" comes from his own views and reputation. On a side note WSOP cashes/wins aren't always indicative of a great player at a game. Hellmuth cashed in more non-Hold em events than hold em' events in '01. And is routinely a big fish in those games (Maybe if he stepped down in stakes he could hang with it).

Though his game is more well rounded than I realized. I think most all of these bets suck except the field in reality. Though it really hinges on how many entrants there are.


I wish I could fade Ivey at 14-1 that is ridiculous.

If there are only 140 entrants... He is 10x better than the average player in the tournament...? Please.
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:51 AM
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I wish I could fade Ivey at 14-1 that is ridiculous.


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I would fade every single one of these players at the WSEX prices.
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