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Old 02-23-2007, 02:30 AM
pr0crast pr0crast is offline
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Default How to get \"earned income\" for Roth IRA

I have only ever had poker income and investment income. I have no "earned" income, and I'm beginning to get angry.

How can I create "earned" income without going out and getting some crappy min wage job? Is it feasible to do a fake "consulting" job for a friend, give them a check, then have them give me a check, and pay the taxes/social security etc on this "earned" money?

Any ideas?
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: How to get \"earned income\" for Roth IRA

Why isn't your poker income earned income?
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:05 AM
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Default Re: How to get \"earned income\" for Roth IRA

I'm filing as a poker pro for 2006, my accountant says that will give me earned income. If anyone can think of a better way I'd like to know.
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:14 AM
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Default Re: How to get \"earned income\" for Roth IRA

also if your going to commit tax fraud with a consulting job for god sakes pay ur friend in cash.
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: How to get \"earned income\" for Roth IRA

I don't think the check thing will work that well because you'll end up paying the taxes twice.

You pay the taxes on the money that you give to your friend. Then you have to pay the taxes on it once he gives it back to you. So thats no good.
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:30 PM
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I'm filing as a poker pro for 2006, my accountant says that will give me earned income. If anyone can think of a better way I'd like to know.

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So you are going to pay the 15% self employment tax?
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: How to get \"earned income\" for Roth IRA

OP,

Im in the same situation. I don't see any easy way around it, and getting a job is a waste of time.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:07 PM
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I'm filing as a poker pro for 2006, my accountant says that will give me earned income. If anyone can think of a better way I'd like to know.

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So you are going to pay the 15% self employment tax?

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Its still worth it for my sweet Publication 54 ~$82K deduction.
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Old 02-24-2007, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: How to get \"earned income\" for Roth IRA

Are the deductions you can make when you file as a pro worth it even tho you pay the extra 15% self employment tax?
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Old 02-24-2007, 03:44 AM
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for publication 54, hell yes (you have to stay out of the country for a year to get it). Otherwise really doubtful.
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