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Old 11-02-2007, 12:53 AM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: Turn 2nd Pair - C/F or Bet?

me too
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: Turn 2nd Pair - C/F or Bet?

were not valuebetting as much as betting for protection. im not really crazy about a bet here (in fact i think its terrible), but something like half pot (as weak as it looks) is probably optimal against his range's equity and i dont think hes ever bluffraising you. i think checking back the river unless you improve is obvious if he calls the turn bet. i also fold to a lead on any river card, usually even if we improve
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: Turn 2nd Pair - C/F or Bet?

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i think a check is best, our only profit from this point is bluff catching, we can't valuebet

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i agree with SH. if you bet this turn and he folds you had the best hand anyway and likely still would have on the river. i think trying to protect against 8x8h isnt great. i agree with unknown soldier that u'd be protecting against a small part of his range.
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: Turn 2nd Pair - C/F or Bet?

flop cbet is perfectly fine. c/f the turn though
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: Turn 2nd Pair - C/F or Bet?

I think you played fine, I probably c/f here.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: Turn 2nd Pair - C/F or Bet?

Agree with orange, he's not folding a Q and I doubt he's floating with some underpair or gutshot, and if he did he'll prob check behind. So yeah c/f, flop is fine imo.
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