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KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
Sorry no reads. I had been tight (obv)
PokerStars Game #13267274625: Tournament #66640482, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/11/15 - 22:49:26 (ET) Table '66640482 97' 9-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: WiLDmAn75 (26115 in chips) Seat 2: nargnice (11190 in chips) Seat 3: dicknastyjr (4480 in chips) Seat 4: HpNOtiC (5462 in chips) Seat 5: elio82 (20987 in chips) Seat 7: diegel (9180 in chips) Seat 8: ulty_dude (9535 in chips) Seat 9: JSchnett (9011 in chips) WiLDmAn75: posts the ante 10 nargnice: posts the ante 10 dicknastyjr: posts the ante 10 HpNOtiC: posts the ante 10 elio82: posts the ante 10 diegel: posts the ante 10 ulty_dude: posts the ante 10 JSchnett: posts the ante 10 diegel: posts small blind 100 ulty_dude: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to JSchnett [Kh Kc] JSchnett: raises 400 to 600 WiLDmAn75: folds nargnice: folds dicknastyjr: folds HpNOtiC: folds elio82: folds diegel: calls 500 ulty_dude: folds *** FLOP *** [Tc 8d 2h] diegel: checks JSchnett: bets 1000 diegel: calls 1000 *** TURN *** [Tc 8d 2h] [Ah] diegel: checks JSchnett: checks *** RIVER *** [Tc 8d 2h Ah] [3s] diegel: bets 3480 (exactly pot) JSchnett: Generally I think that these bets are for value but I had trouble putting him on a hand that he would play this way. I don't think hes calling in the sb with A2/A8, AT could be a possiblilty but seems strange for him to c/c the flop with TPTK. Could be 22/88 even TT but I highly doubt it is AJ/AQ considering it would be a terrible valuebet and they would have had to call on the flop. thoughts? |
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
I fold pretty quick. Though there aren't many hands that you are losing to, there are even fewer hands that can be bluffing here.
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
I guess u have to fold w/o a read. However, given that you checked turn to keep pot small, you essentially induce a bluff a significant percentage of time here on river. Would you call if he bet half the bot?
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
I'd fold with no read and I really hate folding especially when I play a strong hand in a way which will underrep my hand and induce bluffs.
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
Does anyone bluff the turn here (in order to avoid being bluffed on the river)?
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
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Does anyone bluff the turn here (in order to avoid being bluffed on the river)? [/ QUOTE ] no.....no..........no................no |
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
I would never bet the turn.
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
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[ QUOTE ] Does anyone bluff the turn here (in order to avoid being bluffed on the river)? [/ QUOTE ] no.....no..........no................no [/ QUOTE ] why is that so bad (serious Q), if you bet like 1400-1800 here (basically an amount you'd call on the river), why not bet here so that if he calls and leads river you're 100% not good. most often after you've fired twice villain is much more likely to check river which will allow you to get to showdown cheaper. |
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
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Does anyone bluff the turn here (in order to avoid being bluffed on the river)? [/ QUOTE ] I like this line. Many villains are going to auto-call a continuation bet on that T-high flop, figuring you missed with AK-AJ, etc. When the A comes on the turn, fire a bet an amount you would be willing to call on the river. If the villain raises or pots the river, you know you are beat. As played, since the turn was checked (which is also okay), I don't see how you can call that river bet. |
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
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Does anyone bluff the turn here (in order to avoid being bluffed on the river)? [/ QUOTE ]You mean blockbet for cheaper showdown? I think a stupid blockbet like 1/3 pot would be ok on the turn |
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