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Old 11-24-2007, 08:45 PM
Subfallen Subfallen is offline
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Default Re: Slate.com on race and IQ

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0.2% of the population, 25% of the Nobel Prizes.

Still waiting for why this isn't statistically significant.

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You are examining the wrong population.

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I assume you mean that I should be examining the academic elite, but that merely reframes the question. 0.2% of the population, 25+% of the academic elite.

Why?
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:08 PM
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hmmm...seems I've heard this somewhere's else before...
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:19 PM
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hmmm...seems I've heard this somewhere's else before...

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I'm not Jewish, fwiw ( [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ), I just fail to see why these statistics don't astound anyone but me.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:48 PM
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Personally I can't wait until we toss the damn useless intelligence measure out the window and start doing what humans have done with all other tools since the dawn of time - judge them by their usefulness.

Besides its moot. In wouldn't be an extreme prediction to say that in a 100 years we are symbosing with machines who excels us beyond current imagination in efficiency, capability and speed in the the mental faculties these silly articles refer to as intelligence.

For the author to hint at genetic modification as a future solution is retarded.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:19 AM
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Personally I can't wait until we toss the damn useless intelligence measure out the window and start doing what humans have done with all other tools since the dawn of time - judge them by their usefulness.


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Do you think intelligence tests measure nothing at all? If not, what do you think they measure and why is it useless?
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: Slate.com on race and IQ

What is race?
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:45 AM
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What is race?

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Race as applied in this discussion refers to the separate population groups that were reproductively isolated from one another for thousands of generations in very different environments. It's a shorthand term for ethnic origin.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:38 AM
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It's a shorthand term for ethnic origin.

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No it's not. Haven't you been paying attention in all the threads where we've had the exact same discussion? When we are talking about heredity, ethnicity certainly does not equal race.
"Ashkenazi jew" = ethnicity; "white" = race. People seem to confuse (whether intentionally or not) these all the time in these threads.

If anyone from the other side used some kind of "shorthand" in this apparently scientific debate you would probably jump all over them. The debate over a biological notion of race is a major point in this discussion.
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