Quads lose to Full House in AC this past weekend

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If I think I have a winner, I turn it over.

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Yeah, no kidding. If I'm at showdown with a middling hand and other people are hesitant for even a second, I simply and confidently turn over my cards, announce my hand, and usually scoop. Hand's over, let's move on.

To the dealer not dealing a river (if you're lurking): get over yourself and act like a professional. Your theatrics only cost time and spread bad juju.

[booger]

it's pretty standard to show both cards. You don't see the point of it, well one reason would be to make sure you don't have two Ace of spades for example. As a dealer, if you show one and toss the other in towards the muck I'd quickly push the pot to your opponent (especially if you stiff dealers)

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(especially if you stiff dealers)

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That shouldn't have anything to do with it. If the floor is doing her job, it won't have anything to do with the outcome, and the dealer's favoritism toward bigger tippers won't be good for the dealer's career prospects.

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If the hand is irretrievable, it's mucked, too bad. However, if it's someone used to home games and the cards are identifiable, I feel the floor should at least considering letting the hand play, especially if the cards were merely tossed forward and not fully mucked. The winning card WAS shown. Yes, both need to show for the hand to be valid, so if the cards are gone, they're gone, but it's not like it was shown to a neighbor and then mucked. (Tho' if part of the reason is to prove you didn't have two of the same card/suit, why wouldn't they spade the deck after such a sitaution if the mucker protested he had the winner?) It may seem overly harsh in some situations, but this isn't 'Nam, it's poker. There are rules.

[jjshabado]

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I have shown one card many times and won the pot.

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There is a very common situation where this isn't an issue. You show one card and your opponents all muck, then it doesn't matter that you only showed one card because you are the only one with a hand. Otherwise everywhere I have played requires you show two at showdown to get the pot

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Most times I've played the dealer still makes sure both cards were shown. I mean as Angus said what if you had two of the same cards, or some other illegal hand.

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Which casino did this happen at?

At both the Taj and the Borgata, I have seen players sometimes try to show one card at showdown. Generally the dealer or another player will tell the player that both cards need to be shown to win the pot. Unless the unexposed card was hopelessly lost, I think the dealer should have let the player expose it and given him a warning. If the card was lost in the muck, there is nothing else the dealer could have done.

[Brettster]

I always think its hilarious when a player only shows 1 card like they MIGHT have been bluffing when in truth they had a monster and are disapointed you laid down.

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At showdown with another opponent you must always show two cards to be awarded the pot - no exceptions.

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I would be ver careful saying no exceptions. I am ired so I'm not going to, but I am certain I could come up with a couple of exceptions (although all the floro rulings I have seen about playing too few cards were in either Omaha or stud).

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At showdown with another opponent you must always show two cards to be awarded the pot - no exceptions.

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Would the case where the bettor preemptively mucks a bluff instead of showing, leaving a sole live hand to win the pot, be considered an exception?

At the Tunica Horseshoe on Friday morning, it was not considered an exception -- a player not in the hand asked to see the winning hand, and the floor granted his request. I recall a thread about this situ but not the consensus answer.

[psandman]

This isn't an exception. The player doesn't have to show his hand to win. However this is an application of a different rule --- IWTSTH. IWTSTH requires a player request which is different than the general rule that a player must showdown two cards to win (unless he is the only player with cards).