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Re: What do i do here on the flop? 25nl
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i probalby 4bet pf, but in these spots if i have TT+ here i generally just CC. No worse hands are calling and they may continue to bet. just sucks we're OOP. BTW you didnt give me a shoutout at the tables :< [/ QUOTE ] Hey ship, u were at my tables???? What's your pstars screen name? Anyways on the hand I raised the flop to 6.75 and folded to a shove...he showed KK but i still think i misplayed the hand. BTW how is 50nl compared to 25nl, i'm gonna move up pretty soon. |
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Re: What do i do here on the flop? 25nl
Both in pot are short. I'm moving in after minraise 3bet and expect to get called by 66+ because they put me on AK.
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Re: What do i do here on the flop? 25nl
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Both in pot are short. I'm moving in after minraise 3bet and expect to get called by 66+ because they put me on AK. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, recognize you are only risking 15$ here and in 25NL I pretty much want to get it in w/ QQ any time PF vs a 15$ stack, and now you face two shorties. |
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Re: What do i do here on the flop? 25nl
Why does stack of villain matter? 3bet pf means JJ+ a lot of times - doesn't it? I don't want to be up against that. Can someone explain how I should think?
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Re: What do i do here on the flop? 25nl
SPQR: Until proven otherwise, I consider people who buy-in short or let their stacks get below ~75-80% of a full buy in to be poor players. Button also makes a min raise. Sometimes you'll see JJ+ of course, but both of their ranges are far wider. I'd be happy to get AIPF so I'd raise PF. I'd check-raise as played, since I trapped him.
Aside: I don't have a lot of time to table select, so I'll often join a few tables at min/default buy-in, then top off after an orbit or two has given me some reads on the players. I think a lot of players could benefit by doing this, though we'd lose all the "no reads, stack off w/ TPTK?" posts. |
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Re: What do i do here on the flop? 25nl
Make it 4.50 preflop with the intention of calling a shove.
Raise to 7 on the flop and call a shove. If we're up against a full stack then probably fold to a 5-bet preflop and fold to a 4-bet on the flop. I really hate calling down out of position. You give him the chance to shut down if he's holding Ax/Kx and doesn't spike TP on the turn/river, or to keep going if he does. |
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Re: What do i do here on the flop? 25nl
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I would make a good raise pre-flop and call an all-in. Notice that both your opponents do not have a full buy-in. For those who suggested raising pre-flop and folding to a 5-bet, I donīt see how you can fold QQ in NL-25 to a guy who has only 15 bucks. The flop was good for your hand, I would raise, it will be difficult to play OOP if you just call. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with most parts except that I don't think it's such a good flop for your hand because JJ shutdowns on turn and AA will just shove it. I have a feeling that calling down here is -EV unless villain is spewy. Whenever I find myself in this situation I'm against KK+ almost always. |
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