Play along hand, trips 287 BB deep

Bill Smith · #1 10-20-2007, 10:37 PM

SB is running 41/3/5.5 (not a typo) over 40 hands. Pretty straight forward play so far as I could tell.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($28.75)
SB ($46.60)
BB ($8.87)
UTG ($2.10)
MP ($8.20)
CO ($19.28)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.4, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold.

Flop: ($0.90) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.8, SB raises to $1.6, Hero...?

TTStrangler · #2 10-20-2007, 10:40 PM

whew, maniac, pop it to 5?

HasPair · #3 10-21-2007, 04:53 AM

3-bet and see what happens, call if he shoves.

Soultwister · #4 10-21-2007, 05:21 AM

I strangely see SB's line quite often when they are on a flushdraw or straightdraw as well. Versus calling stations I agree with 3-betting here, vs people who are trying to be tricky I often just call and bet or raise the turn if a non-spade arrives to spoil their OOP free card play.

Obviously, the real plan for the turn is to hit the Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Now if he has a T here you are behind to AT/KT obviously, but ahead of JT/T9/T8, which are all in the range of someone with 40% vpip.

If he also is a calling station postflop (his AF is high, but I mean calling with bad odds), I'd 3-bet here to slightly over the size of the current pot + his reraise size.

Also, being effectively nearly 300BB's deep, I would not call a shove here without more specific reads.

2p2J · #5 10-21-2007, 05:27 AM

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3-bet and see what happens, call if he shoves.

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Although this post is plain and simple, it gets the job done for this situation IMO also.

Bill Smith · #6 10-21-2007, 04:19 PM

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I strangely see SB's line quite often when they are on a flushdraw or straightdraw as well. Versus calling stations I agree with 3-betting here, vs people who are trying to be tricky I often just call and bet or raise the turn if a non-spade arrives to spoil their OOP free card play.

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So yeah, this was my plan. Play continues:

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($28.75)
SB ($46.60)
BB ($8.87)
UTG ($2.10)
MP ($8.20)
CO ($19.28)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.4, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold.

Flop: ($0.90) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.8, SB raises to $1.6, Hero calls $0.80.

Turn: ($4.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $3.9, Hero...

bozzer · #7 10-21-2007, 04:41 PM

to get all the money in you need to raise somewhere... like now.

Bill Smith · #8 10-22-2007, 04:45 PM

I'm surprised no other responses. I'll tell you that I just called. Will post my logic and river tonight.

Edit: I'm not saying I played this hand right - feel free to flame away in the interim.

Micro Donk · #9 10-22-2007, 04:48 PM

well its not a difficult hand...

a guy with that AF and that PFR shows that hes prone to way overplay hands and draws. so im going to 3bet to around 5.5 and hope to have it all in by the turn

as played, i make it 11-12 on the turn and be all in by the river

Profish2285 · #10 10-22-2007, 04:49 PM

You have to raise this turn, I am assuming that is why you didnt 3 bet him on the flop. Well you got what you wanted, so now its time to push the action. Just because you realize being this deep effects the play of hands doesnt mean the opponent does. He could have a boat, or he could have a draw, or he could have 88, or he could have whatever other randomness that people show up with. Regardless, this board is getting more draw heavy and its time to make him pay if hes drawing. Make it ~12 here and call a push.