River value?

manupod · #1 11-07-2007, 11:28 AM

Immediately after me the villain is 27/16/3 and has been raising a lot of my cbets and putting pressure on me this session. After that is a shortish 60/5/1.5. My plan here was to check to the fish and c/r him all-in to shut out the good reg rather than face a raise. Maybe bad, but I'm balancing.

So, river action?

1/2

UTG ($158.65)
Hero ($193.17)
CO ($650.84)
Button ($68.98)
SB ($193.85)
BB ($319.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, CO calls $8, Button calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($27) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($27) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $17, CO calls $17, Button folds.

River: ($61) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets ?

early325 · #2 11-07-2007, 11:32 AM

check..sometimes c/c, sometimes c/f

why didn't you bet the flop?

scallop · #3 11-07-2007, 11:35 AM

Fold pf.
Bet the flop.
bet 22 at least on the turn.
check the river.

Suigin406 · #4 11-07-2007, 11:46 AM

pf is fine, bet flop to get value from draws, check river and eval

JFsports · #5 11-07-2007, 11:53 AM

Agree with others, bet the flop and as played bet more on turn. Check river and see what happens.

manupod · #6 11-07-2007, 11:54 AM

i explain the flop check in the op. only concerned w/ river here

early325 · #7 11-07-2007, 11:55 AM

oh..i wouldn't count on a 60/5/1.5 fish betting the flop so you can c/r

JFsports · #8 11-07-2007, 11:59 AM

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i explain the flop check in the op. only concerned w/ river here

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i know, but I don't agree with your reasoning and think that betting is a lot better. river is easy check

scallop · #9 11-07-2007, 12:02 PM

If you were hu then your reasoning would be fine. 3 handed not-so. You likely have the best hand, but it is really vunerable

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pf is fine...

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This is most deffinatly not tru. He is UTG+1. Wtf? And to all the "people make far too big a deal about pf" folk, this hand highlights why you should be tighter in early position.

IF you ARE going to raise this hand and play, most likely, OOP then dont try and take a trick line with a vunerable hand.

manupod · #10 11-07-2007, 12:05 PM

Don't give pf advice

River is all I care about