College Football Week 13

[88jayhawks]

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Of course an undefeated Hawaii is in... but there is WAY too much room for additional confusion for me to take a stab at the full BCS picture yet. There is only one BCS conference I feel confident picking a winner in right now.

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and which one is it?

[88jayhawks]

btw, how [censored] sweet would it be to go to school at hawaii? or not at all?

[BobJoeJim]

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Of course an undefeated Hawaii is in... but there is WAY too much room for additional confusion for me to take a stab at the full BCS picture yet. There is only one BCS conference I feel confident picking a winner in right now.

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and which one is it?

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I feel relatively confident predicting that Ohio State will win the Big Ten.

[JaredL]

Using Sagarin rankings, here are the two teams' schedules and results
WVU
rank team score
111 Western Michigan 62-24
127 Marshall away 48-23
54 Maryland away 31-14
79 East Carolina 48-7
13 South Florida away lost 21-13
108 Syracuse away 55-14
58 Mississippi State 38-13
39 Rutgers away 31-3
48 Louisville 38-31
14 Cincinnati away 28-23

Remaining games:
at 21 Connecticut
vs 68 Pitt

So their loss is at the Sagarin 13th ranked team, who btw are ranked 27th in the AP poll and 23rd in the BCS. Their best win is at Cincinnati, who are ranked 14th by Sagarin, 24th in both the AP and BCS.

Here is the same for Ohio State:
93 Youngstown State 38-6
115 Akron 20-2
44 Washington away 33-14
83 Northwestern 58-7
119 Minnesota away 30-7
55 Purdue away 23-7
131 Kent State 48-3
46 Michigan State 24-17
30 Penn State away 37-17
31 Wisconsin 38-17
20 Illinois loss 28-21
25 Michigan away 14-3

Their loss is at home to Sagarin #20 Illinois who are 18th in the AP and 17th in the BCS. I would say this loss is a touch worse than losing at USF, but it's pretty close either way.

I used Sagarin because it goes deeper than the top 30 or so. It's interesting that he seems to rank Big East teams ahead of the AP and BCS. I'm not really sure why that is.

Ignoring scores and just looking at wins, here are the rankings from worst to best.

WVU: 127, 111, 108, 79, 58, 54, 48, 39, 14
OSU: 131, 119, 115, 93, 83, 55, 46, 44, 31, 30, 25

Looking at that, I think that right now OSU clearly looks better. If WVU beat UConn then that'll tack on another win over a team about 30 (currently 21 but will fall obviously) and if you go by Sagarin it becomes a matter of whether you think it's more impressive to beat two teams in the low 20s or one team in the mid teens. I think the former is true.

However, since Sagarin seems to overrate the entire Big East, at least relative to what most people think, it would appear that Ohio State has a significantly better resume with similar losses and OSU having beaten 3 fairly good teams while WVU will have only beaten 2.

That was long and rambling, but hopefully made some sense.

[BobJoeJim]

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btw, how [censored] sweet would it be to go to school at hawaii? or not at all?

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Personally I think it would suck. All those beaches, the sun, the tourists, being trapped on an island, none of it sounds appealing. I'll happily stay in the Pacific Northwest with my clouds, rain, quiet, and access to a continent, thank you.

[88jayhawks]

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Of course an undefeated Hawaii is in... but there is WAY too much room for additional confusion for me to take a stab at the full BCS picture yet. There is only one BCS conference I feel confident picking a winner in right now.

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and which one is it?

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I feel relatively confident predicting that Ohio State will win the Big Ten.

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thats not really a prediction. i was more or less talking about the conferences that have championship games yet to be played. you angle shot me.

[BobJoeJim]

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Of course an undefeated Hawaii is in... but there is WAY too much room for additional confusion for me to take a stab at the full BCS picture yet. There is only one BCS conference I feel confident picking a winner in right now.

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and which one is it?

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I feel relatively confident predicting that Ohio State will win the Big Ten.

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thats not really a prediction. i was more or less talking about the conferences that have championship games yet to be played. you angle shot me.

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It was precisely what I meant by the original post. Angle? Perhaps. But there's a reason I said only one, and I did mean out of the six.

[88jayhawks]

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btw, how [censored] sweet would it be to go to school at hawaii? or not at all?

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Personally I think it would suck. All those beaches, the sun, the tourists, being trapped on an island, none of it sounds appealing. I'll happily stay in the Pacific Northwest with my clouds, rain, quiet, and access to a continent, thank you.

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you are still trapped on an island and anytime you leave traveling would be a bitch and traveling to your schools road games would get pretty expensive. i think it still would be pretty cool though.

[hudat]

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I think WVU is a more impressive one loss team than OSU.

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osu lost has a better loss (ill vs sflo) and beat more decent teams. kinda baffled wvu is ranked higher really.

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They were ranked higher when the season started and lost first, LDO.

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the whole problem is that the voters have WVU ahead right now and so long as WV takes care of business, which they should do, then the voters are going to keep it that way.


anyone want to take a stab at the BCS picture


rose --
sugar --
fiesta --
orange --

BCS NC --

which 10 teams as of right now are most likely to get in assume hawaii wins tonight and next week -- are they in?

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Rose: tOSU vs. USC
Fiesta: KU vs. Ill
Sugar: LSU vs. Hawaii
Orange: UVA vs. Georgia
NC: Missou vs. WVU

[pwnsall]

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I think WVU is a more impressive one loss team than OSU.

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osu lost has a better loss (ill vs sflo) and beat more decent teams. kinda baffled wvu is ranked higher really.

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Ill is not 7-8 points better than Sflo, that statement is ridiculous, even without factoring injuries. They have more better wins RIGHT NOW but WVU still has two games left.