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Old 03-12-2006, 06:07 PM
cartman cartman is offline
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Default Lost on the turn with 98s

Villain is 47/11/1.2 with went to showdown = 43.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds.


Is there a better way?

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Cartman
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Old 03-12-2006, 06:09 PM
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unfortunately i don't think there is
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Old 03-13-2006, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: Lost on the turn with 98s

No, this villain is peeling so many flops that there is little difference between betting and check/folding the turn in terms of ev in my judgement. Just don't check and call. Josh is right as usual.
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Old 03-13-2006, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: Lost on the turn with 98s

only if you give yourself at least 7 outs.
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Old 03-13-2006, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: Lost on the turn with 98s

I c/f this turn, typically, but recent hands between myself and villain can alter that plan.

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Old 03-13-2006, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: Lost on the turn with 98s

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I c/f this turn, typically, but recent hands between myself and villain can alter that plan.


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do you adjust this against opponents who are v. loose w/ their requirements for peeling flops? I could see your reasoning for check/folding here but against someone who'll call that flop with J7, I think you need to bet again.
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Old 03-13-2006, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: Lost on the turn with 98s

i normally fold preflop

sometimes you can just check/fold depending on your read
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Old 03-13-2006, 01:45 AM
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folding preflop is insane, what's your vpip?
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Old 03-13-2006, 01:53 AM
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I c/f this turn, typically, but recent hands between myself and villain can alter that plan.


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do you adjust this against opponents who are v. loose w/ their requirements for peeling flops? I could see your reasoning for check/folding here but against someone who'll call that flop with J7, I think you need to bet again.

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Yes, i do. And betting again is only helpful if he peels with junk, and then wil fold said junk on the turn, because most of that junk is ahead of hero's 9-hi which will leave us having to fire again on the river.

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Old 03-13-2006, 02:16 AM
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you have a 50/50 hand oop against a guy who probably isnt folding preflop or on the flop
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