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Old 11-03-2007, 05:08 AM
I_AM_EVIL I_AM_EVIL is offline
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Default FTP $3 Knockout Tourney

This is my 1st post in SST so if it's not up to par let me know. I've never used a hand converter before so I'm sorry if people don't like the HH.

At this point in the tourney we're down to 11 people and I think I'm in 5th or 6th. I ended up finishing 10th after losing a preflop all in with AK vs AJ...J hit the flop but that's another story. I should have cruised to the final table but this hand killed me. He's only been at my table for about 10 hands and none of them went to showdown so I don't have a read on him. I also didn't have the other table open to watch his/their play, like an idiot.

Is there any way to get off this hand or play it better? I'm thinking the only thing I could have done was reraise preflop and try to get him to fold. I normally don't let a hand bother me but this one is stuck in my mind and I'm afraid I'll have nightmares about this hand. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Full Tilt Poker Game #4052036372: $3 + $0.30 Knockout (30724491), Table 62 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:19:23 ET - 2007/11/03
Seat 2: I_AM_EVIL (141,044)
Seat 3: LisaSimpson4444 (190,606)
Seat 4: albop22 (110,710)
Seat 7: Ktk Kid (147,929)
Seat 8: panupan (82,160)
Seat 9: fl1coolcat (132,796)
I_AM_EVIL antes 600
LisaSimpson4444 antes 600
albop22 antes 600
Ktk Kid antes 600
panupan antes 600
fl1coolcat antes 600
fl1coolcat posts the small blind of 2,500
I_AM_EVIL posts the big blind of 5,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to I_AM_EVIL [9h 7h]
LisaSimpson4444 folds
albop22 folds
Ktk Kid folds
panupan raises to 10,000
fl1coolcat folds
I_AM_EVIL calls 5,000
*** FLOP *** [Ts 6s Tc]
I_AM_EVIL checks
panupan checks
*** TURN *** [Ts 6s Tc] [8h]
I_AM_EVIL has 15 seconds left to act
I_AM_EVIL bets 20,000
panupan raises to 40,000
I_AM_EVIL raises to 130,444, and is all in
panupan calls 31,560, and is all in
I_AM_EVIL shows [9h 7h]
panupan shows [Td 6d]
Uncalled bet of 58,884 returned to I_AM_EVIL
*** RIVER *** [Ts 6s Tc 8h] [7c]
I_AM_EVIL shows a straight, Ten high
panupan shows a full house, Tens full of Sixes
panupan wins the pot (169,220) with a full house, Tens full of Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 169,220 | Rake 0
Board: [Ts 6s Tc 8h 7c]
Seat 2: I_AM_EVIL (big blind) showed [9h 7h] and lost with a straight, Ten high
Seat 3: LisaSimpson4444 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: albop22 folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Ktk Kid folded before the Flop
Seat 8: panupan (button) showed [Td 6d] and won (169,220) with a full house, Tens full of Sixes
Seat 9: fl1coolcat (small blind) folded before the Flop
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:29 PM
helter skelter helter skelter is offline
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Default Re: FTP $3 Knockout Tourney

You don't have a read, so why re-raise pre-flop?

Even though it's a mini-raise, you should just fold. You are OOP with a weak hand.

The ICM problems I have analyzed have shown that it is much worse to lose chips than gain chips when you are at or close to the final table, as opposed to earlier in the tourney, because $EV comes into play and you lose more equity than you gain. That is even more of an incentive not to play this hand.

Given that you did play the hand:

I think it would be correct to check the flop and fold to anything but a small bet, since you really dont' know how big a dog your hand is if he bets. It's possible he could have overs, but also possible that your only out is hitting the strait, if he had a big pair or a Ten. Fortunately, he checked behind.

After hitting the strait on the turn, I don't think there is any way not to get allin. After he checks the flop and raises me on the turn, I would probably put him on trips, rather than a full house and re-raise allin, just like you did. The pot is so big, even if you just call his turn raise, he will go allin on the river and you have to call.
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