(2/4) KK deep - go broke with 1 pair?

[Paul B.]

Villain is like a 85/15 and very bad. He plays too many hands preflop but seems to understand the concept of position. He min-3bets often on the button (saw him do it once with K8s) and knows how to build pots in position. Out of position he seems fairly passive but seems to fold often / does not make big call downs.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $978.30
BB: $471
UTG: $398
MP: $1,588.80
CO: $3,346.15
Hero (BTN): $1,702.30

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, CO calls $4, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $44</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $200</font>, CO calls $156

Flop: ($406) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $200</font>, Hero calls $200

Turn: ($806) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $600 and calls a shove?</font>

Flop I just called because I put him on garbage and being this deep, I also don't think I get paid off in the small chance he does have 99-QQ. What do you guys think of my turn bet sizing? (I have ~700 left)

[Teh1337zor]

im not very good w/ stacks this deep but is a turn check behind terrible?

[ikestoys]

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im not very good w/ stacks this deep but is a turn check behind terrible?

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85/15

[Teh1337zor]

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im not very good w/ stacks this deep but is a turn check behind terrible?

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85/15

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jesus didnt even see that lol

yeah b/c is good

against a tag what would we do here tho?

[AAismyfriend]

I bet a bit bigger on the flop. I honestly don't hate a turn check despite his stats.....If you bet, you obviously have to call a shove here.

[AAismyfriend]

also, I'd definitely check vs a tag

[futuredoc85]

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im not very good w/ stacks this deep but is a turn check behind terrible?

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85/15

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Flop: ($406) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $200</font>,

changes quite a bit after he calls a 5-bet preflop. i def like checking the turn, id rather keep bombing away all 3 streets if he just c/c all the way

[AAismyfriend]

wow, didn't notice he donked the flop......that does change things a bit. The described player is always checking a set on the flop/5 betting AA preflop, so I would probably just go ahead and raise the flop with the intention of playing for stacks. Calling is fine too obviously, but given his stats I think raising is slightly better. As played, bet/call the turn looks good, but I'd make it like 500, and try and give him the installment plan, while praying that he didn't hit his TTT on the turn.

[VictorEnriq]

I'm thinking KK is the nuts vs this guy. I'd raise the flop no matter what. (but that's more my style than anything, I do understand your play)

The bet is good for me, call the shove and hope for the best.

[darkcheck_]

plz dont say u bet600/folded this turn, man that'll piss me off

this is such a sick spot, check behind on turn vs tag is def ok but ur bankin on tag checking turn to you