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Old 10-01-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: Ron Zook >>>> Charlie Weis

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So back to back BCS bowls don't mean anything?

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Wouldn't that have been with... *gasp* Ty's recruits???
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:24 AM
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Wow, I really hate Clausen now

DIAGF you clown
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:24 AM
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So back to back BCS bowls don't mean anything?

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Wouldn't that have been with... *gasp* Ty's recruits???

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Recruits that Ty couldn't coach...you bet.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:27 AM
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BigDaddy- It's not Ron Zook's fault he didn't have a Tyrone Willingham-caliber coach to stock the cupboard for him.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:27 AM
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Cut this bizarro-looking Guido some slack - he's already losing his hair before age twenty!!! [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:34 AM
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So back to back BCS bowls don't mean anything?

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When you only get invited to them because you'll bring lots of fan and TV ratings, then yes they don't mean anything.

The talent of your team is not measured by how much Brent Musburger & ESPN sucks your [censored].

Get a [censored] clue delusional ND homer.

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LOL anger issues.

Nothing delusional about ND's record improving from 5-7 and 6-6 (Willingham) to 9-3 and 10-3 (Weis).

I'm the first to admit CW made some serious miscalculations about his team's capabilities before the season began and in choosing his priorities of work (i.e. scheme vs. fundamentals). But to deny that ND having the fewest # of returning lettermen in D1 having hurt the program is insane. I'm really looking forward to next year when the "Ty factor" is mostly out of the equation and we can properly evaluate CW almost exclusively on his coaching acumen.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:34 AM
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One thing that gets lost in the whole Ty V. Charlie debate, Notre Dame fired Willingham before they had a replacement lined up. They tried desperately to get Urban Meyer but he chose Florida. Willingham was the plan B.

Now obviously, at the time Willingham was fired, it would be a no brainer decision to bring in Weiss assuming ND had a deal with Weiss already in place. But that fact that ND left Willingham high and dry with no known replacement is a serious slap in the face.

OK back on topic, Zook rules because Clarky says Zook rules. Obviously.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:38 AM
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"I'm the first to admit CW made some serious miscalculations about his team's capabilities before the season began and in choosing his priorities of work (i.e. scheme vs. fundamentals). "

I really do love this weaselly admission of fault. Weis' biggest mistake is not realizing just how terrible Ty's guys were.

Also, why did you include Claussen in the list of FR talent that is finally creeping through(creeping through the fog of Ty's guys, obv)? Is Claussen even the starter? Didn't Sharpley lead the offense to more points in one half than Claussen had coaxed out of them all year?
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:02 AM
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I like how the media is STILL covering the quarterback controversy at Notre Dame. Really? And why should we care about a QB controversy at on 0-5 team again? Gee let's talk about Colorado State's QB controversy.
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:06 AM
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Nothing delusional about ND's record improving from 5-7 and 6-6 (Willingham) to 9-3 and 10-3 (Weis).

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So Weiss gets a pass because his recruits are still young. Yet it's Willingham's fault they went 5-7 then 6-6 with the same aged recruits?
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